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07-26-2012, 04:21 PM
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So what are we supposed to do? Turn off the TV next season? Not every prospect is mentally weak like Lats was. It's a reasonable expectation for a 3rd overall pick.
You're saying it's reasonable to expect to be impressed every game by a 3rd overall pick?

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07-26-2012, 04:23 PM
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It already HAS. Why would they have Doan visit if they were not planning on offering him a contract?

What already has? I said the team WILL NOT bury Gomez.

You don't to be under the cap on July 25th.

Plus there is no report of what type of contract, if any was offered to Doan.

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07-26-2012, 04:24 PM
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It already HAS. Why would they have Doan visit if they were not planning on offering him a contract?

To get Philly and New York to commit more cap space to Doan.

It's a good move.

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07-26-2012, 04:28 PM
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Let's wait for Doan to sign with someone else first, but yes, I'm starting to prepare myself to seeing Gomez in the line up. I'm having a hard time to imagine it from where I stand and it bothers me that he will still be here. The reality is in front of me; he is still on the roster and not much will change from here on end, imo.
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07-26-2012, 04:29 PM
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You're saying it's reasonable to expect to be impressed every game by a 3rd overall pick?
Reasonable to expect him to make the team. He strikes me more as Landeskog than Lats.

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What already has? I said the team WILL NOT bury Gomez.

You don't to be under the cap on July 25th.

Plus there is no report of what type of contract, if any was offered to Doan.
Regardless of the type of contract, Doan will cost 6+ mil per year and the only way to fit that is to move Gomez's cap hit.

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07-26-2012, 04:57 PM
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Semin to Carolina kinda sucks for us, i think we will battle with them for a playoff spot.

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07-26-2012, 06:37 PM
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Were are the folks who said who cares about cap space !!!
People who are trying to justify moves or non-moves. Cap space matters. ESPECIALLY when the player that takes a lot of it isn't performing. Yet, you'll find people saying that Kaberle was actually great for us.....Somehow, you'd think that teams would be knocking on the Habs door if that was case but I guess we're not giving him based on how "untouchable" he is....

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07-26-2012, 07:10 PM
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People who are trying to justify moves or non-moves. Cap space matters. ESPECIALLY when the player that takes a lot of it isn't performing. Yet, you'll find people saying that Kaberle was actually great for us.....Somehow, you'd think that teams would be knocking on the Habs door if that was case but I guess we're not giving him based on how "untouchable" he is....
I don't think I've ever seen someone said that he did great, but I think alot can recognize that he played decent and actually help the PP. He produced at a 0,51 pts rate with us and on a 80 games season it's 40 pts which is pretty good for a defenseman, also when looking at some contracts (Wideman or Wisniewski in particuliar) 4,25 doesn't seem too high. There is the argument that the guy isn't a need and I agree that I would prefer a big gritty top 4 dman that is a minute eater and can play on the PK over him, but I don't think that the problem to get one was money or cap hit.

Kaberle probably has still some kind of value(very little but still...), but depth at the defensive position is still important, especially that the team could need some help on the PP since Markov isn't a sure thing.

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Regardless of the type of contract, Doan will cost 6+ mil per year and the only way to fit that is to move Gomez's cap hit.
All assumption and means nothing.

Bottom line is Gomez will be here.

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07-26-2012, 07:41 PM
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People who are trying to justify moves or non-moves. Cap space matters. ESPECIALLY when the player that takes a lot of it isn't performing. Yet, you'll find people saying that Kaberle was actually great for us.....Somehow, you'd think that teams would be knocking on the Habs door if that was case but I guess we're not giving him based on how "untouchable" he is....
I remember that Friday like if it was yesterday, not many of us cared about the cap going forward. Oh well guess those people aren't pissed with not much going on this off season

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All assumption and means nothing.

Bottom line is Gomez will be here.
Bottom line is you have no clue.

If they were not prepared to bury Gomez they wouldn't bother bringing in Doan.

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07-26-2012, 08:45 PM
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Bottom line is you have no clue.

If they were not prepared to bury Gomez they wouldn't bother bringing in Doan.
If we fail to sign Doan, what's plan B? Keeping Gomez would make sense no?

But again, you seem to be the only one who has clues

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If we fail to sign Doan, what's plan B?
Somebody with photoshop skills should make a red, purple, blue image of Bergevin with the word "HOPE" at the bottom, like for Obama.

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Somebody with photoshop skills should make a red, purple, blue image of Bergevin with the word "HOPE" at the bottom, like for Obama.
I LOL'ed.

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Nash will absolutely KILL it in NY. Playing for a winner, with a supporting cast, a proven coach and in that environment, Id expect 80-90 points from him next year, seriously. This guy will thrive in his new environment.
really what about Nash's career make you believe he is going to as you say lol "Kill it in NY" I watched the guy play in London and the NHL live in Detroit I found him to be a floater big body like Joe Thornton now Tort's has Richards and Nash (half the talent of Vinnie was) all he needs is a St Louis type player and the lighting are back somewhat lol

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I think their defense is to young and not deep enough to win next year.
They can address that at the deadline.

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Semin to Carolina kinda sucks for us, i think we will battle with them for a playoff spot.
I laughed so hard. Haha what a dumbass

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Bottom line is you have no clue.

If they were not prepared to bury Gomez they wouldn't bother bringing in Doan.
Like I've said before you don't have to be under the cap in July.

IMO, Gomez will be here regardless of whether they sign Doan or not. Gomez is not a tradeable asset. If they have to move someone it will be somebody else.

You have no clue if a contract was offered to Doan, correct?

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So does Carolina sign Alex Semin 1 year for 7 million dollars if they have Tomas Kaberle under contract still?

Were are the folks who said who cares about cap space !!!
I'm right here...and I don't see what Kaberle has to do with Semin?

You REALLY think moving Kaberle is what enabled them to sign Semin? lol

Did moving Kaberle and his massive 4.25M cap hit also help them sign Jordan Stall to a 10yr 60M contract lol

Gotta love these jr capologists lol

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Wasn't sure where to ask this but HabsProspects directed me to the board..

The flyers each summer have a sale with authentic jerseys of players who are no longer with the team and they are about 10 bucks each.. Do the canadiens do that? Would love to get a canadiens jersey

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I'm right here...and I don't see what Kaberle has to do with Semin?

You REALLY think moving Kaberle is what enabled them to sign Semin? lol

Did moving Kaberle and his massive 4.25M cap hit also help them sign Jordan Stall to a 10yr 60M contract lol

Gotta love these jr capologists lol
You must be another one with a clue like your buddy Carey Price. Oh and since it's cool. lol

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People who are trying to justify moves or non-moves. Cap space matters. ESPECIALLY when the player that takes a lot of it isn't performing. Yet, you'll find people saying that Kaberle was actually great for us.....Somehow, you'd think that teams would be knocking on the Habs door if that was case but I guess we're not giving him based on how "untouchable" he is....
Of course cap space matters, just like pro player evaluation matters, just like amateur player evaluation matters, just like drafting matters, etc.

It's just with the cap being so high...it matters way less then it did before. Everyone who breaks out their calculators after any signing just makes me laugh...look at the Flyers, they're always spending near the cap, hell, no team spent more in player salaries last year than the Flyers...yet here they were ready to offer a single player a 14yr 110M deal.

Because of the cap floor, most teams are spending roughly the same on salaries...managing a salary cap is like a puzzle, some teams are better at it then others. But this idea that the salary cap can somehow handcuff teams, is a complete myth, if a team wants a certain player and that player wants to play for that team, it can happen.

For years all i've heard were terms like 'salary cap hell'...but I haven't seen one single team actually be in 'salary cap hell'.

For example, this idea that the Carolina Hurricanes were somehow able to sign Alexander Semin because they moved Tomas Kaberle last year is absolutely ludicrous. Makes no sense at all

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