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07-27-2012, 02:18 PM
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Do people actually watch the Jets play. The opposition's plan when Enstron and Buff are on the ice is to dump into Enstrom's corner. The guy is weak in the corners and the other team knows it. It is just something he has to deal with. I would say Buff when he isn't being stupid offensively is a much better defensive player on the virtue of his size then Enstrom is. That is when he isn't being stupid
Toby was +6, while buff was -8 and he had 20 more points than him. When isn't buff playing stupid offensively? I don't think he even knows what position hes playing..

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07-27-2012, 02:19 PM
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I think Chevy has had a successful offseason, I am very pleased right now. We have locked up valuable pieces to our core, next offseason it will be time to lock up Bogosian, Wheeler and Little (Burmistrov too).

I feel our core and foundation is well in place. Next up we must see improvements and playoff appearances and within all of this it will be Chevy's job to truly make this core a contender.

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Good to see he wants to be part of what TN has become and will grow into....welcome to Winnipeg for the long haul Toby!!!!

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And this is why everyone in Atlanta left, no commitment from ownership.

Players want to have owners who care about winning and will do whatever it takes which TNSE is modeling.

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Far-sighted move. The market for good D-men has risen dramatically and anything under $6M is a steal. With Enstrom you can either continue to enjoy the random variable luxury known as 'Buff' and/or carry on Bogo's positive development.

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07-27-2012, 02:24 PM
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YES! YES! YES!

So happy! Our best player locked up (hopefully) long term! Now we need to pair him with Bogosian and allow him to actually play his game instead of always having to cover up for Byfuglien's defensive gaffes.
Are you going to apologize to Chevy now

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Almost jumped out of my chair when I saw this on TSN.ca! Very excited to have him locked up for 6 years. Even though he is small, he is the kind of guy who will take a hit to make a play. He always makes the smart pass, rarely turns the puck over under pressure and is one of the top 10 offensive D-men in the league. Thank you Chevy!

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07-27-2012, 02:32 PM
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I wonder how this impacts Bogo extending. He's not going to want to being on the 2nd PP unit forever.

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Thrilled we avoided a Suter debacle. Chevy sure is proving himself. Very very happy about this.

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I wonder how this impacts Bogo extending. He's not going to want to being on the 2nd PP unit forever.
How? Bogo's forte isn't on the PP.

He's solid on the second unit, but there aren't too many teams where he would step in and be an automatic first unit guy. His value is primarily 5 on 5.

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Woooohooooo! Chevy continues to address the burning needs this off-season. Wrap up the Kane thing and then browse through the training cap fodder of others to get a depth D-man.

I wonder what Hainsey's value is right now. A trade packaging him and a prospect / pick might get us a dependable stay at home guy? I like Hainsey but the analysis done in the other thread demonstrates that we need a stay-at-home guy who The Ron is still transitioning into.

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Not the biggest Enstrom fan admittedly, but the cool thing in my view is that veterans apparently have enough confidence in both the organization and the market to re-sign here, so cool.


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5 year deal
30mm is now my guess

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How? Bogo's forte isn't on the PP.

He's solid on the second unit, but there aren't too many teams where he would step in and be an automatic first unit guy. His value is primarily 5 on 5.
Maybe not yet, but I certainly think as soon as this season and beyond that Bogosian could be a legitimate #1 PP guy. His skating and shot are top notch. Bogo has all of the offensive tools needed in my opinion to be a great offensive contributor. When he was drafted his offense, skating and physical game were his #1 tools.

It's going to be really disappointing if we don't give Bogosian prime offensive opportunities. I'm not worried though, I still feel he's naturally too good not to earn and receive those offensive opportunities.

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I'm gonna guess 32.5 mill.

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Very happy with this news. Enstrom is a valuable part of our team.

Imagine that - players re-signing in Winnipeg instead of waiting for free agency - guys that actually want to be here. To me that is the most positive aspect of some of the signings this summer.

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How? Bogo's forte isn't on the PP.

He's solid on the second unit, but there aren't too many teams where he would step in and be an automatic first unit guy. His value is primarily 5 on 5.
At age 21, you think that's it for Bogo? Sorry. That skating, that shot...that belong on a #1 PP unit...for sure when he's developed a bit more.

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Bogo's going to need to be put in those situations as to make sure his game doesn't completely transfer to a defensive d-man.

Early in his career he could move the puck and bring it up the ice better than most in his position and had a cannon of a shot. Later his shot tailed off and rarely if ever hit the target and he seemed to lack the confidence he once had to carry it up.

But like I said, he has a true offensive touch and it needs to be a priority in his development.

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Bogo's going to need to be put in those situations as to make sure his game doesn't completely transfer to a defensive d-man.

Early in his career he could move the puck and bring it up the ice better than most in his position and had a cannon of a shot. Later his shot tailed off and rarely if ever hit the target and he seemed to lack the confidence he once had to carry it up.

But like I said, he has a true offensive touch and it needs to be a priority in his development.
Exactly, Lynk. I too feel he will need to be put into those key and prime offensive situations in order for his offensive game to maximize it's potential. There is a touch of fear in me that if Bogosian continues on simply being a shutdown guy and more so than less defensive guy, he may lose touch with what was at one time an extremely good offensive game.

But again, his skating, his shot, etc. are all natural, God given talents, and those tools indicate to me he will indeed be a force offensively sooner rather than later. Surely the team knows and can see this.

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Exactly, Lynk. I too feel he will need to be put into those key and prime offensive situations in order for his offensive game to maximize it's potential. There is a touch of fear in me that if Bogosian continues on simply being a shutdown guy and more so than less defensive guy, he may lose touch with what was at one time an extremely good offensive game.
Or he could refuse to sign with the Jets knowing he'll never get a shot at being put in those situations.

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Whatever Enstrom's flaws are, there aren't a whole lot of defencemen in the NHL that have proven they can play the minutes he can in a top pairing role. And those that can rarely become available by FA or trade. This is a deal Chevy simply had to get done.

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It just seems so painfully obvious that Bogo could be on the 1st unit.

Place Byfuglien down low and let Toby and Bogo handle the points like they used to back in Atlanta before Buff.

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I think that in a year or two, Enstrom-Buff will become our second pairing behind Bogosian and whoever his partner is. But until then, Bogosian still needs to get his game back on track playing with Hainsey and being coached by Huddy. Next summer, we could trade for a defenseman or try and sign a guy like Edler.

In a few years after that, our defense could be:

Trouba-Bogosian
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Was ok with him being moved...now I find myself kinda pleased. Weird being a koolaid drinker
This is how I felt as well. if we could've got back something good in a trade I would've been ok with him going. But hearing he's signed for 5 years has made me happy.
It appears that our very own Winnipeg Jets are disproving the myth of "nobody wants to play in Winnipeg"
GO JETS!

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Are you going to apologize to Chevy now
Ok I actually laughed out loud on this one

Seriously though you have made a good point. I am guessing this move would be hugely popular with the Thrasher faithful.

There is allot to be said for preserving the core....I think it's like Domino's, once they start to fall your way or away from you it just Keeps rolling that direction. With every Player that commits its more likely the next wave will commit (Wheels, Bogo, Burmi).

Here is a key I think and we are finding out allot about the TNSE model now.

#1 We will retain the core even if they are not ideally suited to our prototype (Bigger). This shows we are pragmatic and this shows loyalty but not blind loyalty. Ladd, Slates, Pavs, Toby, Kane, one by one we are selling these guys on TNSE! The Jets, and Winnipeg.

#2 We will draft and develop slowly and we put a high premium on character and toughness, Scheifele, Trouba, Lowry, Sutter, Yuen, etc etc. size and character. It's one thing to say it another thing to actually pull the trigger. Will it work, we'll see, but they have a vision and are sticking too it

#3 unlike Nashville in the early days some of our fans feared the draft and develop only model but were we're one of the more agressive teams in this free agency market.mWe went hard after Parise, landed Olli, Poni, and Welly and really upgraded our two biggest holes (size, 3rd line, and top centre). So much for sitting back Mark, Chevy and company have a patient long term plan but short term they are agressive

#4 they are not afraid to spend. We are not being stupid but we are not affraid to compete for talent and get assets signed up long term for market rates. (goodbye 1.0 I sure don't miss that part)


If you aren't a bit excited now about our patient while being aggressive and loyal approach then I think you are being stubborn.

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