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07-25-2012, 11:22 PM
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If you factor only skill, I have to go with Markov. But if you factor intangibles as well, I believe Koivu would be the greatest

No one else compares IMO.

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07-26-2012, 08:30 AM
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Koivu
Markov
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07-26-2012, 08:35 AM
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Théodore in 2001-02: Hart and Vézina trophies

Kovalev in 2007-08: the driving force of The Turtleneck Buddies line; one of the best in the league.

Halak in 2009-10; great season, great olympics and jaw dropping playoffs.

Overall, far ahead of everyone else: General Markov

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07-26-2012, 08:41 AM
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Kovalev in his one magical year (84 points, no one's come close), Theodore in his tiny prime and Halak for the stretch drive and two playoff rounds was the highest caliber of play we've had since 2000.

Oh and there was that stretch of 35 games where Huet had 7 shutouts I think?


Koivu may have been the heart and soul of the franchise but his on-ice performance never lived up to that.

I'm still bitter at Markov for getting injured so much don't mind me.

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07-26-2012, 08:41 AM
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I'm a Koivu fan, but if we're only starting in 2000, I'd say Markov. It's close. 2000-2004, Saku was still the man. Post lockout, definitely Markov.

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07-26-2012, 07:38 PM
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Forward: Koivu, Kovalev, Plekanec

Defense: Markov, Hamrlik?, Souray?

Goal: Theodore, Price, Halak

Overall: Markov

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07-26-2012, 07:46 PM
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How can the answer be something other than Markov... I like Koivu but he was never tops in the league, while Markov was a top 3 D-man in the NHL at the time he got injured, people just forgot about him. Was our only truly elite player.

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07-26-2012, 07:56 PM
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Depressing thread is depressing.

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07-26-2012, 08:02 PM
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07-26-2012, 08:59 PM
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Greatest single season performances? Theodore and Kovalev no question. Theodore's Hart and Vezina takes the prize, but Kovalev's 84 point performance in 07-08 was pretty impressive. Halak's run in the playoffs is also worthy of note, but that's not an entire season.

Greatest overall? Toss up between Markov and Koivu. When either was on the ice they left it on the ice. Not dramatic or dominating, but superb game after game, season after season.

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07-26-2012, 09:59 PM
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How can the answer be something other than Markov... I like Koivu but he was never tops in the league, while Markov was a top 3 D-man in the NHL at the time he got injured, people just forgot about him. Was our only truly elite player.
This... At the time who was better ? Chara, Lidstrom .... Markov.

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07-27-2012, 01:34 AM
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We do have patches who has potential to be that player.

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07-27-2012, 03:18 AM
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Saku Koivu.
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07-27-2012, 04:39 AM
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Kovalev, Markov, or Koivu...but I still have occasional nightmares about Theodore lol.

I only put Kovalev because it seemed like he lit the B's up whenever they played the Habs.
Lol I'm guessing Theodore is why you opted to go with top shelf in your username

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07-27-2012, 04:44 AM
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No player carried the team like Koivu. I would also say Markov had more help on defense than Koivu ever had on offense.

As for best playoffs, do people forget this little event that ended with a #1 ranked bruins team face down in the dirt?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS9dbVL7PKk
The number #1 ranked Bruins? I assume your talking about the year we had 13 shots in both game 5 and 6 and watched Theodore pretty much win a series single handedly? Markov had little to do with that. God we were awful that year. Hiring MT again as the coach again just reminds me of it.

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07-27-2012, 06:20 AM
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Definitely Markov.

It shouldn't even be a debate.

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07-27-2012, 06:25 AM
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My vote is for Andrei Markov, but Captain Saku is not so far behind.

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What a pathetic list. Sorry, but it is.
I kinda feel the same way, sadly.
12 years and we are picking between Koivu, Markov, Theodore and Kovalev...

Any of you stats freak that can compile a list of most games played for the Habs during the stretch? Markov is the only player still on the team that played for the Habs pre-lockout, Pleks is the second longest serving player. They are the only one left since the first year post-lockout.

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07-27-2012, 06:27 AM
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What about Rivet. Guy was a trooper, a leader to the team and a strong presence on the ice. When he no longer fit into the plans, he was traded out for Gorges and a pick that turned out to be Pacioretty.

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07-27-2012, 07:14 AM
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My vote is also for Markov, can only imagine what could/ should/ might have brought to our team if he was as tough as Gorges ?
Quick calculation showed that he participated in 70% of total games since 2000-2001 season.

On the upside, let's do the same excercise in 10 years and without having a crystal ball, i'm absolutely certain we'll have a lot more fun answering this post !.....the future is brighter than it's been in ages

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07-27-2012, 08:42 AM
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My vote is also for Markov, can only imagine what could/ should/ might have brought to our team if he was as tough as Gorges ?
Quick calculation showed that he participated in 70% of total games since 2000-2001 season.

On the upside, let's do the same excercise in 10 years and without having a crystal ball, i'm absolutely certain we'll have a lot more fun answering this post !.....the future is brighter than it's been in ages
If one of our young guns becomes what Markov was ( I even doubt it.) it will be a complete accomplishment.

People really forget how Markov was consired just behind Chara before the freaking knee & Blade story.

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Has to be Markov. The team has been so different without him. PK picked up the slack against Boston in the playoffs, but otherwise Markov has definitely been the MVP.

Montreal fans never realized how good he was.


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07-27-2012, 01:35 PM
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SAKU KOIVU

Basically the reason why I became a habs fan since '04. And all my friends love him and we were all hurt and disappointed when he wasnt resigned.

I still cant get over it btw. (lol)

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Saku was the man, made me cry and cheer.

Markov is a close second.

edit : future is bright though...

I feel PK is pretty much on level with Markov, Price is already better than Theodore in his prime and Pacioretty is light years ahead of Kovalev in terms of consistency and overall usefulness to a hockey team, gotta love those snipes from the dots while not moving, Kovy's got nothing on Max, he's got talent son...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8GzSJCqOvA


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07-27-2012, 04:13 PM
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Price is already better than Theodore in his prime
Theodore won a Hart and Vezina in his prime. Just sayin'


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