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07-27-2012, 01:31 PM
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Tripp's an odd duck. He definitely picks out his favorites even when it's painfully obvious to everyone else that what he sees isn't what's going on when it would diminish one of his favorites in favor of one of the guys he doesn't care as much for. His analysis of what was going on with the Pitkanen-Ward pairing experiment is prettymuch the doctoral thesis of this theory.

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07-27-2012, 01:33 PM
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now what will be interesting is the way tripp tracy changes his world view of alex semin. in almost every canes cast of a caro v caps game tripp rips semin to pieces for his lack of heart and effort and hockey savvy....now???

cant wait
The shift has already started there. If you were unfortunate enough to follow him on twitter, you would see the beginning of the back peddle already taking place. Fortunately, Alexander Semin has never heard of Tripp Tracy and likely never will unless it's preceded by the words "Guess who wants an interview between periods but isn't getting one".


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07-27-2012, 01:41 PM
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this was Tripp's DM to me yesterday: "Wellwood different kind of player at different number. Can't really compare the 2 potential signings."

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07-27-2012, 01:45 PM
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Longtime Caps fan here, great signing. He became a scapegoat here, but it's WAY overblown. Great passer and shooter, very good defensively and on the PK. Him, on either Staal's Wing is going to be a good match. As for the character issue, he's simply a quiet introvert, aloof at worst. The GM that gave contracts to Schultz and Ward, and ignored the 2nd line center until this year, laid another egg by not offering Semin any deal. Congrats on having the best top 6 in the SE.

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for those here that missed this.....this is not a washington fans hated him thing.
the canadian media hates him WAY more than any group of washington fans.

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07-27-2012, 02:05 PM
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I take Capitals fan criticism more seriously than I do media criticism for the reasons I outlined above. Canadian media doesn't like guys who don't play by their rules, either on the ice or especially off the ice, and will be quick to let you know that.

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07-27-2012, 02:14 PM
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The shift has already started there. If you were unfortunate enough to follow him on twitter, you would see the beginning of the back peddle already taking place. Fortunately, Alexander Semin has never heard of Tripp Tracy and likely never will unless it's preceded by the words "Guess who wants an interview between periods but isn't getting one".
Looking forward to hearing about the text messages Tripp has received from Semin

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07-27-2012, 02:22 PM
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Pierre is certainly an expert on who you don't want around a hockey team

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07-27-2012, 02:27 PM
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I take Capitals fan criticism more seriously than I do media criticism for the reasons I outlined above. Canadian media doesn't like guys who don't play by their rules, either on the ice or especially off the ice, and will be quick to let you know that.
To play the devil's advocate, Capital fans don't have the same access to the players that guys in the media do and thus may have less of an idea of what really goes on off-the-ice.

While I do agree the criticism of Semin was overblown, I don't believe it was unfounded.

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07-27-2012, 05:28 PM
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"2 minute penalty for hooking."

Get used to it.

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07-27-2012, 05:38 PM
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If Semin had gone to Pittsburgh, Pierre would have 100% changed his tune.

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07-27-2012, 05:43 PM
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If Semin had gone to Pittsburgh, Pierre would have 100% changed his tune.
Until they didn't win the cup, then it would be all his fault.

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07-27-2012, 05:45 PM
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Semin's Penalties

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"2 minute penalty for hooking."

Get used to it.
You know I have been hearing/seeing a lot of comments towards Semin and his taking bad penalties. Caps fans act like this is something new to us. First of all, Staal had one of the worst starts to his career this past season. I think we all know what its like to see a good player hit a cold streak, so any "streakiness" Semin may possess is not something new. Also, Jokinen was all but non-existant for me this past season, yet another player not playing up to their potential.

With regards to the penalties comments, Jeff Skinner took some of the stupidest/worst penalties I have ever seen. It seems like a maturity problem, but I feel as though Semin's stupid penalties can't seriously be much worse than some of the crap Skinner took.

Third, I would rather see Semin taking stupid penalties and scoring goals than see no Semin on our team at all. He gives this team a real opportunity to go deep in the playoffs. AND if he happens to take a bad penalty, we have one of the best two way forwards in the nhl on our PK, so I think we will be fine

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07-27-2012, 05:53 PM
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This is what a friend of mine texted me when I told him about the signing...he's high up in an NHL front office. Just FYI.

I know. When he doesn't show up half the games or not compete, don't complain. He is top 5/10 pure talent in the league and one of the best shots in the league. But he plays the game for the wrong reason (money) and not to win."

So this is how one team views Semin. I'm going to reserve judgement until the middle of the season, but I'm pretty excited. Pure talent trumps inferior talent + effort most of the time. Especially if there are two major stars already on the roster (Staals).

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07-27-2012, 06:01 PM
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I think you just have to hope that the cycle of E. Staal not showing up, Semin not showing up, Skinner not showing up, J. Staal not showing up, Jokinen not showing up and Ruutu not showing up coincides to an extent where at least two or three show up on any given gamenight. With legitimate talent in the top-six now, the team is hopefully more prepared to compensate for Eric's slow start and not have the season end before the new year.

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One thing that is almost universal among hockey fans -- they complain about stars not "showing up" often enough. There are VERY few players in the history of the game who gave a consistently superior performance night after night. It's just part of the game. Malkin, Crosby, Stamkos... hell, Mario Lemieux even received a lot of the same criticism.

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07-27-2012, 06:15 PM
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If there's any coach who can hold every player accountable for there actions its kirk muller,i think we are gonna be just fine.

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07-27-2012, 06:15 PM
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On another note, this thread needs a poll


better band name: "Alexander Semin Experiment" or "The Arturs Irbe Experience"?

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This is what a friend of mine texted me when I told him about the signing...he's high up in an NHL front office. Just FYI.

I know. When he doesn't show up half the games or not compete, don't complain. He is top 5/10 pure talent in the league and one of the best shots in the league. But he plays the game for the wrong reason (money) and not to win."

So this is how one team views Semin. I'm going to reserve judgement until the middle of the season, but I'm pretty excited. Pure talent trumps inferior talent + effort most of the time. Especially if there are two major stars already on the roster (Staals).
So why didn't he sign in Russia and get paid more?

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07-27-2012, 06:25 PM
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This is a classic case of both parties knowing exactly what they're getting into. Semin wanted big money and the chance to increase his earning potential by playing with top-flight linemates; done. Canes wanted 70 point production from a first-line winger and the chance to bail after a year if it doesn't work out; done.

Both sides are using each other, and that's not necessarily a bad thing. Hell, that's how most people are with their jobs.

I don't think many of us necessarily view Semin as a long-term cornerstone of the team, but he's a guy who can help get us where we want to be in the short term. No different than most deadline trades, i.e., getting Dougie Weight for the playoffs even though everybody knew he was going right back to St. Louis.

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07-27-2012, 06:38 PM
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So why didn't he sign in Russia and get paid more?
My cousin's friend's brother's aunt is secretary for the GM of CSKA Moscow and she said Semin didn't want to come back to Russia because half of his salary would be seized by the KGB, Russian mafia & government.

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Brb, gotta go to the Pens forum to trash Sutter under the guise of being a realist. Since it's an HF pastime for fans to be "realists" when discussing your teams former players with their new teams.

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Not only do we have 6 players who would be top 6 on most teams, we have 3 players who would be top line players on most teams (though not all 3) in Semin, S12 and Skinner (and maybe S11).

We have the firepower.

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This is what a friend of mine texted me when I told him about the signing...he's high up in an NHL front office. Just FYI.

I know. When he doesn't show up half the games or not compete, don't complain. He is top 5/10 pure talent in the league and one of the best shots in the league. But he plays the game for the wrong reason (money) and not to win."

So this is how one team views Semin. I'm going to reserve judgement until the middle of the season, but I'm pretty excited. Pure talent trumps inferior talent + effort most of the time. Especially if there are two major stars already on the roster (Staals).

I hope he plays for money this year. Last chance for a 5 year deal.

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My cousin's friend's brother's aunt is secretary for the GM of CSKA Moscow and she said Semin didn't want to come back to Russia because half of his salary would be seized by the KGB, Russian mafia & government.
An NHL GM told me that the 'Canes were offered Alex Semin+1st in exchange for a 7th round pick at the deadline last year and said no.

Joe Corvo asked for a trade last year because he asked for a contract extension and the 'Canes said no.

Tomas Kabele was traded because he wasn't good and was out of shape.

The 'Canes are high on Jeremy Welsh and tried to trade up to get back into the first round.

I am now a trusted insider, take my posts seriously plz.

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