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07-28-2012, 05:15 AM
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Good news our D coach is in tight with a stick manufacturer.
Marty was brutal last year and didn't appear motivated. Hopefully he'll bounce back.

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A couple of hockey sticks would be nice.
To be generous, we'll throw in a conditional 7th if either of those break during a PK or scoring chance.


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A couple of hockey sticks would be nice.
Maybe a spare dman or two along with a couple of sticks from teppo's stick company?

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07-28-2012, 06:30 AM
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Marty Reasoner for
An order of buffalo wings
And
Blue cheese
And
Extra napkins
I hope I am not asking to much.If I have to add a pick I will.

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Average defenseman at best? My good friend, you are not familiar with the talents of Andrej Sekera. We'll hapilly keep him though barring a overpayment
he's an average nhl defenseman. relax. you talk about him like he's ryan suter yet he appears in every trade proposal by sabre fans. He barely makes our top six. He's not in the same league as Streit, Visnovsky or Hamonic. I'd take MacDonald over him. And Donovan and deHaan will be better than him in a year or two


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he's an average nhl defenseman. relax. you talk about him like he's ryan suter yet he appears in every trade proposal by sabre fans. He barely makes our top six. He's not in the same league as Streit, Visnovsky or Hamonic. I'd take MacDonald over him. And Donovan and deHaan will be better than him in a year or two
He was buffalos besr defensemen last year....outplayed myers and ehrhoff....also on a great contract.

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What would Islander fans want for Reasoner?

Long Island didn't seem to agree with him, but he's still one of the league's better 4th line centers at 35 years of age. We'd actually kind of prefer old, right now - old comes cheaper and we're mainly only looking for stopgap centers anyway.
Nothing.
His F/O percentage was 53.0

Unless a youngster beats Reasoner out in camp and Reasoner is blocking that deserving prospect, then the isles might as well keep Reasoner for his face off ability, hoping he bounces back to 12 goals range.


Not much interest in getting a mid round pick, that probably won't even reach the nhl or an ahl warm body.


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What would Islander fans want for Reasoner?

Long Island didn't seem to agree with him, but he's still one of the league's better 4th line centers at 35 years of age. We'd actually kind of prefer old, right now - old comes cheaper and we're mainly only looking for stopgap centers anyway.
In all seriousness a late round pick, a spare d-man, or spare PK forward would all fit the bill. His value has got to be low so I wouldn't expect anything more than a depth asset.

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In all seriousness a late round pick, a spare d-man, or spare PK forward would all fit the bill. His value has got to be low so I wouldn't expect anything more than a depth asset.
Pardy?

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he's an average nhl defenseman. relax. you talk about him like he's ryan suter yet he appears in every trade proposal by sabre fans. He barely makes our top six. He's not in the same league as Streit, Visnovsky or Hamonic. I'd take MacDonald over him. And Donovan and deHaan will be better than him in a year or two
Oh god, someone bring jame over here to tell this guy whats good

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No offense, but that's, like, a really lame response. Like, really lame.

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Oh, sorry, I didn't realize that you didn't know enough about either team to realize that was a horrible proposal. Next time I'll dumb it down for you.

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he's an average nhl defenseman. relax. you talk about him like he's ryan suter yet he appears in every trade proposal by sabre fans. He barely makes our top six. He's not in the same league as Streit, Visnovsky or Hamonic. I'd take MacDonald over him. And Donovan and deHaan will be better than him in a year or two
Sekera would be your best defenseman. Though that really isn't saying much...

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07-28-2012, 10:31 PM
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Sekera would be your best defenseman. Though that really isn't saying much...
Visnovsky, Streit, and Hamonic should all be better, though none of them are so much better that Sekera couldn't have a better season than them, especially if Streit or Visnovsky begin to show their age.

As for Macdonald and de Haan, it's hard to say. For it's worth, our parent site (Hockey's Future) had Sekera ranked higher than either of them, though they're often wrong, and he's met or exceeded expectations since the time he was a prospect. He still has room to grow, too. Of course, Macdonald and de Haan have more room to grow. Suffice to say Rej is better right now, and there's considerable doubt as whether either of those Isles prospects will ever be better.

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In all seriousness a late round pick, a spare d-man, or spare PK forward would all fit the bill. His value has got to be low so I wouldn't expect anything more than a depth asset.
If we re-sign him, how about Patrick Kaleta? Most Sabres fans would hate losing him, but I think Tropp can replace him. Kaleta can hit, agitate, PK, and has a nice "rolling the dice" goal celebration.

A 3rd round pick is always an option too.

As for spare d-man... normally, I'd say Mike Weber's your man. He's NHL-ready now and brings a truculence that's missing from the Isles' stable of mostly offensive dman prospects. But Weber and Ott are pillow-fight buddies, and I'm reluctant to trade him right now for the same reason I didn't want to trade Leopold the same offseason we landed Regehr. I'd like to see Weber given one more chance on this squad before we let him go to where he's needed.

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Visnovsky, Streit, and Hamonic should all be better, though none of them are so much better that Sekera couldn't have a better season than them, especially if Streit or Visnovsky begin to show their age.

As for Macdonald and de Haan, it's hard to say. For it's worth, our parent site (Hockey's Future) had Sekera ranked higher than either of them, though they're often wrong, and he's met or exceeded expectations since the time he was a prospect. He still has room to grow, too. Of course, Macdonald and de Haan have more room to grow. Suffice to say Rej is better right now, and there's considerable doubt as whether either of those Isles prospects will ever be better.



If we re-sign him, how about Patrick Kaleta? Most Sabres fans would hate losing him, but I think Tropp can replace him. Kaleta can hit, agitate, PK, and has a nice "rolling the dice" goal celebration.

A 3rd round pick is always an option too.

As for spare d-man... normally, I'd say Mike Weber's your man. He's NHL-ready now and brings a truculence that's missing from the Isles' stable of mostly offensive dman prospects. But Weber and Ott are pillow-fight buddies, and I'm reluctant to trade him right now for the same reason I didn't want to trade Leopold the same offseason we landed Regehr. I'd like to see Weber given one more chance on this squad before we let him go to where he's needed.
25 yr old MacDonald plays quality, 1st pairing mins. Over 23 mins a game.

The isles have Carkner signed for 3 yrs,adding truculence.
They also have Mayfield and Pedan, two big, physical blueline prospects.

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He was buffalos besr defensemen last year....outplayed myers and ehrhoff....also on a great contract.
That's not saying a whole lot. It's like saying "he was columbus' best goalie last year"

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Sekera would be your best defenseman. Though that really isn't saying much...
Uhh...How bout no. He's a garbage can

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Uhh...How bout no. He's a garbage can
Somebody obviously has NO clue what he's talking about....also remember when the islanders wanted Ehrhoff very badly and he laughed at your offer for more money then buffalo offered? He was better then that guy.....so Id look before id post. You just look ignorant saying things like that.

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Would the isles be able to do a rick nash type deal for vanek?
Starting with vanek for nielsen+ (we desperately need an ACTUAL third line center, I don't trust leino in that role and have no idea if ott can play center well)
Vanek for nielsen+good top 6 winger? Not sure how that value is.

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Uhh...How bout no. He's a garbage can
You really need to relax. Sekera's a very good defenseman.

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Would the isles be able to do a rick nash type deal for vanek?
Starting with vanek for nielsen+ (we desperately need an ACTUAL third line center, I don't trust leino in that role and have no idea if ott can play center well)
Vanek for nielsen+good top 6 winger? Not sure how that value is.
We don't really have the room for Vanek, and I doubt Wang would be willing to pay that contract.

What you're asking for sounds like Nielsen, Grabner, Ness, 1st.

Grabner >> Dubinsky
Nielsen = Anisimov
Ness << Erixon
1st = 1st

That would destroy our depth since all we need is a 2nd line center.

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Somebody obviously has NO clue what he's talking about....also remember when the islanders wanted Ehrhoff very badly and he laughed at your offer for more money then buffalo offered? He was better then that guy.....so Id look before id post. You just look ignorant saying things like that.
Buffalo offered a frontloaded contract and the Islanders didn't. And the Sabres offered more money.

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he's an average nhl defenseman. relax. you talk about him like he's ryan suter yet he appears in every trade proposal by sabre fans. He barely makes our top six. He's not in the same league as Streit, Visnovsky or Hamonic. I'd take MacDonald over him. And Donovan and deHaan will be better than him in a year or two
Sekera is not a sexy d-man, but he was definitely the most consistent guy on the Sabres blueline last year, and for several years running. He's a staple on the top pairing for the Slovaks with Chara. He faces the highest qualcom of any Sabres d-man and manages to be a + player. He's a good skater with a good outlet pass and rarely gets beat in one-on-ones.

Yeah, he'd barely make your top 6.

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Somebody obviously has NO clue what he's talking about....also remember when the islanders wanted Ehrhoff very badly and he laughed at your offer for more money then buffalo offered? He was better then that guy.....so Id look before id post. You just look ignorant saying things like that.
But the sabres fan who claimed sekera would be the isles best dman has a clue?

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