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2012 Free Agency Thread - Part XXII: Doan Go Breakin My Heart Edition

View Poll Results: So where do you think we go from here?
RayRay will sign a UFA quality wing in the preseason 4 2.67%
RayRay will sign a UFA grinder because that’s just how we roll 13 8.67%
RayRay will swing a preseason trade for a quality wing 19 12.67%
RayRay will swing a preseason trade for a grinder 2 1.33%
RayRay will give Adams a $11.5 million raise. 22 14.67%
RayRay will swing a trade deadline trade for a quality wing 62 41.33%
RayRay will buy himself $12 million of bling and rock this house 10 6.67%
Who gives a ****? Edward and Bella broke up, OMG 18 12.00%
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07-27-2012, 09:37 PM
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That's a travesty. Best ranch dressing on earth.
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do the penguins intend to spend to the cap every season?

people around here talk about it let its a foregone conclusion that the penguins will be among the leading spenders in the league, but i wonder.
Do the Pens intend to raise my ticket prices every year? Another 15% or so this offseason. As long as they keep doing that, yeah I expect them to spend it on the team.

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07-27-2012, 09:52 PM
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I was wondering if we really can spend to the cap ...
70 milion $ is a lot of money if you aren't Toronto or New York.
This year i didn't hear that Shero is "allow" to spend to the cap.
I now that Burkle is a gazillonier, but the franchise is another thing.
I definitely think we could have and we would if the right talent was still out there. If you look at Toronto and New York, they're both ~$10M below the ceiling. The only team that's right up against the Cap is Boston but that includes Tim Thomas and Marc Savard.

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07-27-2012, 11:06 PM
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Iginla at the deadline.
No way, Iggy will not live south of 40.5 north latitude!

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07-28-2012, 03:51 AM
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Sign Andrei Kostitsyn for 1 year and pursue someone at the deadline.

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07-28-2012, 04:50 AM
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Sign AK, trade for a winger with lesser trade value (Stewart, Setoguchi etc) go go go

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07-28-2012, 07:24 AM
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Kostitsyn or Fehr for me. If not I wouldn't even do anything. Maybe Shero is waiting for the next CBA before spending cash. Malkin is priority next off season

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07-28-2012, 07:34 AM
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I think people are starting to let their minds wander. Sign AK? Nah, pass. Let some of our young guns play and either solidify a spot on our team of increase their trade value.

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07-28-2012, 07:58 AM
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I think people are starting to let their minds wander. Sign AK? Nah, pass. Let some of our young guns play and either solidify a spot on our team of increase their trade value.
Thing is none of our young players have the talent Kostitsyn has. I still think he wasn't used properly by the Habs and he never had the chance to play with an elite player besides Kovalev which he ended up having his best season

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07-28-2012, 08:22 AM
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Thing is none of our young players have the talent Kostitsyn has. I still think he wasn't used properly by the Habs and he never had the chance to play with an elite player besides Kovalev which he ended up having his best season
His stats for Nashville, weren't actually that bad;

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Thing is none of our young players have the talent Kostitsyn has. I still think he wasn't used properly by the Habs and he never had the chance to play with an elite player besides Kovalev which he ended up having his best season
But he's not exactly Alex Semin, either.

What I'm trying to say is this; Nobody out there is good enough to pursue instead of giving Tangradi and Jeffrey a legit shot on a scoring line.

It's time to see what we have with them, once and for all. I think Tangradi could actually do well on Malkin and Neal's line. And I think Jeffrey could succeed alongside Sid and Kunitz.

Kunitz - Crosby - Jeffrey
Tangradi - Malkin - Neal
Dupuis - Sutter - Kennedy
Cooke - Vitale - Glass
Adams

I wouldn't mind seeing that lineup for a bit.

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But he's not exactly Alex Semin, either.

What I'm trying to say is this; Nobody out there is good enough to pursue instead of giving Tangradi and Jeffrey a legit shot on a scoring line.

It's time to see what we have with them, once and for all. I think Tangradi could actually do well on Malkin and Neal's line. And I think Jeffrey could succeed alongside Sid and Kunitz.

Kunitz - Crosby - Jeffrey
Tangradi - Malkin - Neal
Dupuis - Sutter - Kennedy
Cooke - Vitale - Glass
Adams

I wouldn't mind seeing that lineup for a bit.
i'd love to see that, if they play well enough to earn those spots of course, and that gives us an awesome 3rd line, and a solid tough 4th line

even if Jeffrey and Dupuis were switched i'd still really like that.

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You know its just store bought ranch right?


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07-28-2012, 09:01 AM
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Iggy might force them to, if they are out of the playoff picture.

yeah..... no he won't.

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do the penguins intend to spend to the cap every season?

people around here talk about it let its a foregone conclusion that the penguins will be among the leading spenders in the league, but i wonder.
Because having Sidney Crosby & Evgeni Malkin on the roster demands that you do everything in your power to surround them with the best that's available. Ray Shero has failed this offseason in doing that.

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Because having Sidney Crosby & Evgeni Malkin on the roster demands that you do everything in your power to surround them with the best that's available. Ray Shero has failed this offseason in doing that.
The off-season isn't even close to over.

He did resolve the Staal situation very quickly, greatly improved the goalie depth, dumped a contract he didn't like in Michalek, freed up a roster space for a kid like Despres or Morrow that will likely have a much bigger impact for our team than Michalek ever did, created the financial flexibility to add a big salary through trade or UFA when the right opportunity comes along.

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The off-season isn't even close to over.

He did resolve the Staal situation very quickly, greatly improved the goalie depth, dumped a contract he didn't like in Michalek, freed up a roster space for a kid like Despres or Morrow that will likely have a much bigger impact for our team than Michalek ever did, created the financial flexibility to add a big salary through trade or UFA when the right opportunity comes along.
I agree.

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Because having Sidney Crosby & Evgeni Malkin on the roster demands that you do everything in your power to surround them with the best that's available. Ray Shero has failed this offseason in doing that.
This isn't coming out of your wallet.

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The off-season isn't even close to over.

He did resolve the Staal situation very quickly, greatly improved the goalie depth, dumped a contract he didn't like in Michalek, freed up a roster space for a kid like Despres or Morrow that will likely have a much bigger impact for our team than Michalek ever did, created the financial flexibility to add a big salary through trade or UFA when the right opportunity comes along.
He resolved the Staal situation when it became public knowledge that Staal was looking to leave when his contract ran out. Did Shero have an inkling much earlier that Staal wanted to leave and he waited until the end thus costing the team a much greater return? Michalek was dumped to give cap relief for a potential Suter & Parise signing and also because this coaching staff refused to play Michalek to his strengths. There will no quality UFA this season and giving up assets for a maybe trade down the road that may or not be there is always a risk. The only thing I agree with is the improvement in the goaltending position but lack of wings and lack of veteran defenseman will doom this team especially come playoff time. Ray Shero has got a lot of work to do.

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do the penguins intend to spend to the cap every season?

people around here talk about it let its a foregone conclusion that the penguins will be among the leading spenders in the league, but i wonder.
If we wanted both Parise and Suter, I'm sure we're willing to spend to the cap.

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If we wanted both Parise and Suter, I'm sure we're willing to spend to the cap.
But at the same time - we won't just spend to spend. We made that mistake with 3.5M on Satan.

I think we will be smart and make the right moves. I do have a weird feeling Iginla will be a Pens if Calgary falls apart. No basis behind it. Just a weird gut feeling.

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Oh, I want Iginla as well. Would like to get him at the deadline and sign him for another 2-3 years. Just a great presence along with the rest of his game. And still pumping in 30+ unlike Shane 7.5 Doan.

Right now, unless everyone gets shocked by a trade no one expected (which is very possible), I just hope Jeffrey and Tangradi get a big opportunity from October through February.

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But at the same time - we won't just spend to spend. We made that mistake with 3.5M on Satan.

I think we will be smart and make the right moves. I do have a weird feeling Iginla will be a Pens if Calgary falls apart. No basis behind it. Just a weird gut feeling.
I hear him and Sid played together once

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But at the same time - we won't just spend to spend. We made that mistake with 3.5M on Satan.

I think we will be smart and make the right moves. I do have a weird feeling Iginla will be a Pens if Calgary falls apart. No basis behind it. Just a weird gut feeling.
Obviously he wasn't very successful here but it was only a 1-year contract and the Penguins still were able to trade for Guerin at the deadline. Considering that we won the cup that year, the signing didn't seem to have that much of a negative impact.

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Shero will swing a trade for a winger. I'm not sure if it's in the next few weeks, during the pre-season when he can evaluate possible fits in Tangradi & Jeffrey, or very early on in the season. I don't think he waits till the deadline.


I don't think he waits that long because we have a log-jam on D that isn't going to get solved until some bodies get moved out. And whether it's a guy like Strait, or guys like Jeffrey or Tangradi, their values won't improve if they're sitting in the press box or come out and ask for a trade. Shero won't stand idle and let things fester. He showed that with the Staal trade, and he'll do that again, IMO.

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