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[#8] Voting -- HFStars 2012 Top-20 Prospects -- [#9] Discussion

View Poll Results: Who's the Stars' #8 prospect?
Bystrom 2 4.17%
Fraser 11 22.92%
Glennie 13 27.08%
Guptill 1 2.08%
Jokipakka 1 2.08%
Molin 0 0%
Ritchie 0 0%
Shore 0 0%
A. Smith 0 0%
R. Smith 16 33.33%
Stransky 3 6.25%
Winther 1 2.08%
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07-27-2012, 07:56 AM
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[#8] Voting -- HFStars 2012 Top-20 Prospects -- [#9] Discussion

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pos.
country
acquired
round
change
% of vote
1
 ‏‏‏‏Jack Campbell
G
2010
1st
0
37.7
2
 ‏‏‏‏Jamie Oleksiak
D
2011
1st
2
48.0
3
 ‏‏‏‏Alex Chiasson
RW
2009
2nd
2
57.1
4
 ‏‏‏‏Radek Faksa
C
2012
1st
new
73.5
5
 ‏‏‏‏Brenden Dillon
D
2011
FA
7
43.9
6
 ‏‏‏‏Patrik Nemeth
D
2010
2nd
2
38.5
7
 ‏‏‏‏Cody Eakin
C
2012
TR
new
52.3

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My guess is Reilly Smith wins. I still stuck with the Glennie vote though, and my next one would have been Reilly.

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Accidently voted Winther, meant to vote Fraser.

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Went for Fraser...guy just has the eye for goal. Glennie then R Smith next...Glennie's year in the pros got going eventually and I still think he's more likely to make it as a top6 guy than Reilly is

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Fraser.

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Voted for Guptill because I'm a rebel.

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8. Fraser
9. R. Smith - Smith seems to be very well rounded and the organization thought highly enough of him to have him finish the season in Dallas. He would have been my #8 but you can't ignore Fraser's 37 goals in the AHL last season.

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Went for Glennie...... again

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Fraser, Guptill, Stransky/Reilly, Reilly/Stranksy

Not sure about the order of the last two there but Fraser's proximity puts him over Guptill's potential right now.

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I think Glennie, R. Smith, Fraser, Bystrom, and Guptill all have merit at this point and I really have no clue who has the most potential because I have seen so little of anyone but Smith and Fraser. I guess I'll go with Fraser because I like his game more than Smith's from what I've seen.

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Went with Fraser here. Just cant ignore 37 goals in your 1st professional season. Reilly Smith is at #9 for me. Sure, he wasnt ready for the NHL at the end of last season, but we shouldnt hold that too much against him. Give him a full AHL season and I think we'll get back to being pretty excited about him.

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Going with Glennie. He didn't outshine Fraser (in the goal scoring department), but I think he still has more upside than both Smith and Fraser.

Glennie
Fraser
R. Smith

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Voted for Guptill because I'm a rebel.
I was tempted to put him up here as well.

There are 5 forwards up for the next 5 spots IMO. Don't see any of the defensemen breaking into this pack, this seems like a pretty solid group of wingers here.

R. Smith
Fraser
Ritchie
Guptill
Glennie

How I'd rank them, personally.

I've got Bystrom just after this group as well, too.

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Stransky seems to be quite a gem. I expect he will climb the most when this list a prospects is voted on again next summer

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Stransky seems to be quite a gem. I expect he will climb the most when this list a prospects is voted on again next summer
The awesome thing is even though we know he is looking like a gem he is still unlikely a top 10 prospect at this point. One more piece of evidence that the Stars system has come a long way in a very short period of time.

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hoping Reilly wins this so i can finally stop voting for him.
My next choice is glennie. He seems to be maturing as he learns what it takes to be a good player. My expectations are for him to have a very productive season for a very good team in Texas.

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The awesome thing is even though we know he is looking like a gem he is still unlikely a top 10 prospect at this point. One more piece of evidence that the Stars system has come a long way in a very short period of time.
Yep, I've been tempted to vote for Stransky based on his great potential, but there's just no way he's ahead of guys with similar top 6 potential like R. Smith and Fraser, who are closer to the NHL. I'm really excited about Stransky but he's not ahead of the rest of the forwards yet; and as txomisc said, that's a great thing.

My current list is Fraser > R. Smith > Guptil > Glennie > Stransky > Ritchie/Bystrom. Not going to lie, I completely forgot about Ritchie until seeing LT's list. Pretty amazing how deep at Wing we are right now. Our #12-13 prospect could easily be James Neal 2.0.

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I'm honestly really excited about Ritchie. I know we're use to bottom line pluggers as Dallas Stars draft picks so it's almost a dirty word to compliment a guys defense, but Ritchie's defense truly was strong in the playoffs where he took on a 3rd line checking role. Before the playoffs, he was also a PPG player getting Top 6 minutes so he excelled in whatever role Niagara was using him. The reports of having the best shot at the development camp only add fuel to the fire.

He's going to be further down my list, but I pretty much have the same level of excitement for the guys between 12 and 20. Dallas' depth is a wonderful thing, and you can see that in two or three years Dallas could have the firepower to go after those "last" pieces to put the team over the top.

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As of 38 total votes, the official count seems to be:

Fraser @ 10 (added UnholyPrince)

Glennie @ 10 (subtracted Ana Crusis, bnots13)

R. Smith @ 13

I'd like to see the vote total get to at least 45 before we consider moving on. Hopefully, it'll get in the 50's.

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I'm honestly really excited about Ritchie. I know we're use to bottom line pluggers as Dallas Stars draft picks so it's almost a dirty word to compliment a guys defense, but Ritchie's defense truly was strong in the playoffs where he took on a 3rd line checking role. Before the playoffs, he was also a PPG player getting Top 6 minutes so he excelled in whatever role Niagara was using him. The reports of having the best shot at the development camp only add fuel to the fire.

He's going to be further down my list, but I pretty much have the same level of excitement for the guys between 12 and 20. Dallas' depth is a wonderful thing, and you can see that in two or three years Dallas could have the firepower to go after those "last" pieces to put the team over the top.
He never really impressed me that much when I saw him last year, I used to be really high on him.

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As of 38 total votes, the official count seems to be:

Fraser @ 10 (added UnholyPrince)

Glennie @ 10 (subtracted Ana Crusis, bnots13)

R. Smith @ 13

I'd like to see the vote total get to at least 45 before we consider moving on. Hopefully, it'll get in the 50's.
I'm hesitant to continue voting. My knowledge after the top 6 is pretty limited. I voted Fraser last time. Seeing his AHL totals(compared to Eakin) just made me feel it has to translate over to the NHL in some respect (and the negatives that I heard were something I think can be improved on). But the clear consensus was Eakin which kind of surprised me.

Anyway I'll continue if you want to hit a certain number of votes, but I almost feel it's kind of a wasted vote with my lack of knowledge.

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This is Glennie's final year to prove he's not just a piece in our next trade. That alone has me wondering why so many of you have him higher than all of these players who have actually proven themselves.

Glennie has a higher ceiling than Fraser who just kicked his ass in the AHL? Sorry, but no.

Glennie was a GREAT player in juniors, and yeah he's improving. Just because he was overvalued by our organization, doesn't mean his potential is higher than a player in the 5th round. I KNOW I don't have to explain this to Stars fans.

Scott Glennie plays when he feels like, and he doesn't show heart until the second half. (if he even chooses to then)

Matt Fraser just scored 37 goals in his FIRST professional season. That's not a player with a higher upside? Honestly? Don't tell me line mates made a difference either. Texas was a pathetic excuse for a team last season.

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I can't vote from my phone. Put me down for Fraser. Glennie has dropped down my personal list.

So, 8. Fraser ( then I'd prob go 9. A. Smith, / 10. R. Smith).

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I voted for Fraser he is a pure goal scorer of course he has to improve other areas but not many players have such a scoring touch.

My next votes will be Ritchie and R. Smith.

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I can't vote from my phone. Put me down for Fraser. Glennie has dropped down my personal list.

So, 8. Fraser ( then I'd prob go 9. A. Smith, / 10. R. Smith).
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