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Marc Staal to Carolina

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06-25-2012, 06:33 AM
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I predict Marc will be traded to the Canes the summer of 2014 if the Rangers win a cup in the next 2 years. Since Marc then has his name on the cup, he'll feel less inclined to stay with the Rangers because they give him a better chance at winning one. He'll want to join his brothers in Carolina and Sather will do like Shero did, get Rutherford to trade for him and overpay even though Marc would likely go there the following year.

Rangers can expect get a solid young roster player, a 1st round pick, and a good prospect.

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06-25-2012, 07:55 AM
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I predict:

Marc Staal will never be a 'Cane,

how about them apples?

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I predict:

Marc Staal will never be a 'Cane,

how about them apples?
Them's Big Apples!!!!!

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06-25-2012, 08:14 AM
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Pretty simple concept really. The Rangers have no reason to trade Staal for a bunch of smaller / less effective pieces. If they move him, it's a quality for quality trade. If not, you can wait until 2015 and hope that we don't extend him beforehand.

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Staal, Rupp, 3rd for McBain or Pitkanen/Dalpe/1st

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Staal, Rupp, 3rd for McBain or Pitkanen/Dalpe/1st
No thanks, skinner or staal nothing else I want from them for Staal. So yes an overpayment

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07-29-2012, 12:06 AM
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No thanks, skinner or staal nothing else I want from them for Staal. So yes an overpayment
Hahaha, good luck with that. There's overpayment, and then there's insult. You've hit the latter.

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07-29-2012, 12:09 AM
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They won't trade Skinner straight up for Staal. I don't think they'd trade him right now anyways.

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Hahaha, good luck with that. There's overpayment, and then there's insult. You've hit the latter.
Point being staal is not being traded. Carolina could maybe get him in 3 years

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07-29-2012, 12:13 AM
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Point being staal is not being traded. Carolina could maybe get him in 3 years
When he potentially doesn't pan out right? You sir know nothing about hockey trades. Well done.

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Hahaha, good luck with that. There's overpayment, and then there's insult. You've hit the latter.
Not really. All star shutdown defenseman aren't exactly common.

Now, pray tell, what would make sense from a Rangers perspective? Certainly not a significantly lesser player in Jamie McBain, or 2nd/3rd line players like Jiri Tlusty or Jussi Jokinen.

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When he potentially doesn't pan out right? You sir know nothing about hockey trades. Well done.
When who doesn't pan out?

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Not really. All star shutdown defenseman aren't exactly common.

Now, pray tell, what would make sense from a Rangers perspective? Certainly not a significantly lesser player in Jamie McBain, or 2nd/3rd line players like Jiri Tlusty or Jussi Jokinen.
staal skinner might be too much, but everyone else they got is too little for my liking for a shut down top pairing dman

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07-29-2012, 12:22 AM
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Staal isn't at an all-star level anymore, he's solid but not elite. They have shutdown guys in Girardi/McDonagh so you'd be getting a really good established young guy like McBain who could step in plus one of their top 3 prospects in Dalpe who's almost ready. Plus a pick too. Just hypothetical but I think it would work well for the Rangers.

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07-29-2012, 12:24 AM
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Hahaha, good luck with that. There's overpayment, and then there's insult. You've hit the latter.



I'd type out a lengthier reply, but you don't deserve it.

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07-29-2012, 12:25 AM
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Staal isn't at an all-star level anymore, he's solid but not elite. They have shutdown guys in Girardi/McDonagh so you'd be getting a really good established young guy like McBain who could step in plus one of their top 3 prospects in Dalpe who's almost ready. Plus a pick too. Just hypothetical but I think it would work well for the Rangers.
Did you watch Staal in the playoffs? Haha hey probably was our best Dman once he got back to full speed

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Staal isn't at an all-star level anymore, he's solid but not elite. They have shutdown guys in Girardi/McDonagh so you'd be getting a really good established young guy like McBain who could step in plus one of their top 3 prospects in Dalpe who's almost ready. Plus a pick too. Just hypothetical but I think it would work well for the Rangers.
mcbain has not been great at all. So that comes out to a prospect + a pick for staal. No thanks. Look at what jack Johnson returned, look at what Goligoski returned.

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07-29-2012, 12:27 AM
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I'd type out a lengthier reply, but you don't deserve it.
So basically you're saying you have nothing to say then. Thanks for the clarification.

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07-29-2012, 12:28 AM
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Staal isn't at an all-star level anymore, he's solid but not elite. They have shutdown guys in Girardi/McDonagh so you'd be getting a really good established young guy like McBain who could step in plus one of their top 3 prospects in Dalpe who's almost ready. Plus a pick too. Just hypothetical but I think it would work well for the Rangers.
Uh, what? He was our best defenseman in the playoffs along with McDonagh, arguably better.

It takes a few weeks to adjust after missing training camp and 40 games with a concussion. You're probably one of the people that thought he sucked and was "always overrated" the first few games he came back.

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Did you watch Staal in the playoffs? Haha hey probably was our best Dman once he got back to full speed
He was and he did play well but they also have 2 other guys like him, so why not turn him into a few other parts like a young defenseman who's a good 3/4th guy on an RFA deal plus a top prospect who adds great C depth. You could probably get a 2nd rounder back too. I have a feeling Staal wants to play with his brothers now too.

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Not really. All star shutdown defenseman aren't exactly common.

Now, pray tell, what would make sense from a Rangers perspective? Certainly not a significantly lesser player in Jamie McBain, or 2nd/3rd line players like Jiri Tlusty or Jussi Jokinen.
When did I ever reply to any of the names you mentioned?

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He was and he did play well but they also have 2 other guys like him, so why not turn him into a few other parts like a young defenseman who's a good 3/4th guy on an RFA deal plus a top prospect who adds great C depth. You could probably get a 2nd rounder back too. I have a feeling Staal wants to play with his brothers now too.
So because we have a shut down D we can make it worse by getting a forward we don't need?

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Uh, what? He was our best defenseman in the playoffs along with McDonagh, arguably better.

It takes a few weeks to adjust after missing training camp and 40 games with a concussion. You're probably one of the people that thought he sucked and was "always overrated" the first few games he came back.
No, but I think alot of people are still drinking the Staal kool-aid that he's this all-world defenseman when he's coming off an injury and isn't the same. He's not an AS caliber player.

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Staal isn't at an all-star level anymore, he's solid but not elite. They have shutdown guys in Girardi/McDonagh so you'd be getting a really good established young guy like McBain who could step in plus one of their top 3 prospects in Dalpe who's almost ready. Plus a pick too. Just hypothetical but I think it would work well for the Rangers.
This is just false. Staal is better than both of those players defensively. He was concussed and not conditioned well enough to just jump back in after 8 months off. Marc Staal is not untouchable but if they're gonna trade Marc it will be in a package deal for a guy like Weber not Jamie McBain.

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When did I ever reply to any of the names you mentioned?
You were implying that Staal isn't worth those pieces to the Rangers. The poster brought them up, saying that's the only way it would make sense for the Rangers. What's your point? To try and bring this arbitrary "value" argument that plagues these boards constantly? It isn't insulting when the players I posted were the only other options. That's the insulting part.

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