HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Western Conference > Central Division > Dallas Stars
Notices

[#9] Voting -- HFStars 2012 Top-20 Prospects -- [#10] Discussion

View Poll Results: Who's the Stars' #9 prospect?
Bystrom 4 9.52%
Glennie 13 30.95%
Fraser 20 47.62%
Guptill 0 0%
Jokipakka 0 0%
Molin 1 2.38%
Ritchie 1 2.38%
Shore 0 0%
A. Smith 0 0%
Stransky 3 7.14%
Vance 0 0%
Winther 0 0%
Voters: 42. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
07-30-2012, 03:41 AM
  #26
glovesave_35
Name
 
glovesave_35's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: South Korea
Country: United States
Posts: 14,426
vCash: 250
Quote:
Originally Posted by WhoahNow View Post
All the scout reports I've read say he has excellent down low puck control, like Jagr does. Protecting the puck while facing the boards making it tough to get the puck away from him. The fact that he is Czech probably adds to the comparison, but from what I heard he plays a similar style anyways.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cin View Post
I thinK Forsberg and Jagr had completely different ways of protecting the puck. Forsberg was incredibly quick and agile, so he could just power straight through you. Where Jagr uses his body as a wall and just goes around you.

Stranksy obviously does the Jagr way.
I'll wait until I can actually watch the kid play to make a judgment, and I have seen scouting reports that liken his style to Jagr, I just find the almost universally accepted comparisons of young players to older players of the same nationality dubious.

Still though, for the sake of discussion, there really should be more than the specific way a player protects the puck to compare him to anybody as an overall player rather than that particular attribute. The way his all around game is described doesn't really sound like Jagr.

glovesave_35 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-30-2012, 09:00 AM
  #27
Arpi3080
Everybody be cool!
 
Arpi3080's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Country: Germany
Posts: 734
vCash: 500
Again Fraser after him Ritchie / Stransky.

Arpi3080 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-30-2012, 01:49 PM
  #28
LatvianTwist
Global Moderator
 
LatvianTwist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Houston
Country: Tibet
Posts: 17,862
vCash: 157
Quote:
Originally Posted by glovesave_35 View Post
Just curious, would you make this comparison if Stransky were from say, Sweden? Or would he then get a Foppa comp?
Probably, he just has that insane puck possession skill.

Never actually seen him play, though, just going off of scouting reports. I probably need to watch a lot of our Junior players play tbh.

LatvianTwist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-30-2012, 01:49 PM
  #29
piqued
Global Moderator
 
piqued's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Dallas
Country: United States
Posts: 30,554
vCash: 27750
Quote:
Originally Posted by glovesave_35 View Post
Still though, for the sake of discussion, there really should be more than the specific way a player protects the puck to compare him to anybody as an overall player rather than that particular attribute. The way his all around game is described doesn't really sound like Jagr.
I understand the argument you're making and that's very correct that sometimes using players of the same nationality can be a lazy crutch. But in this case I do believe it's warranted from that particular aspect. People were describing his game that way before the Stars acquired Jagr. Theoretically there should be some justification for players that hail from the same country having a higher likelihood of being a good comps. Maybe one watched the other when growing up and patterned their game after him. Maybe they were both products of a similar youth system. It's undeniable that certain countries tend to produce players who, on the whole, have certain similarities when viewed against everyone else.

piqued is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-30-2012, 07:38 PM
  #30
glovesave_35
Name
 
glovesave_35's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: South Korea
Country: United States
Posts: 14,426
vCash: 250
Quote:
Originally Posted by piqued View Post
People were describing his game that way before the Stars acquired Jagr.
Was definitely not trying to imply that it had anything to do with Jagr now being a Star.

Quote:
Originally Posted by piqued View Post
Theoretically there should be some justification for players that hail from the same country having a higher likelihood of being a good comps. Maybe one watched the other when growing up and patterned their game after him. Maybe they were both products of a similar youth system. It's undeniable that certain countries tend to produce players who, on the whole, have certain similarities when viewed against everyone else.
I can buy this but it only goes so far. Lazy journalists are the most guilty of this and their opinions become part of the accepted discussion on the topic of the player. The same thing happens in other sports, sometimes along nationality lines, sometimes along racial lines.

I'll stand by my reserving actually making a comment on this specific player because I haven't watched him play; seems I'm not exactly alone in that department though yet some people don't have a problem parroting what they've heard and read.

Quote:
Originally Posted by piqued View Post
But in this case I do believe it's warranted from that particular aspect.
This is what I'm really getting at though. These comparisons don't seem to just be that Stransky "protects the puck like Jagr". They seem to take that one aspect of his game and make the general comparison, or if the scouting reports themselves don't lazy fans do.

glovesave_35 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:56 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.