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07-30-2012, 06:05 PM
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You think if we traded something like Stajan (possibly add more) for Kaberle?
Both not great contracts but we could use the help on D
Stajan + Babchuk + Howse

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Kaberle

I think Montreal considers that..

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07-30-2012, 06:08 PM
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Please let this happen. Our lineup is decent then going into next season, especially if one of Stempniak, or Stajan/Cervenka can be turned into a 4/5 dman.

Tanguay-Filppula-Iginla
Hudler-Cervenka/Stajan-Cammy
Bartschi-Backlund-Glencross
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If this move goes down, Feaster finally has my attention. If he can find another fringe top 4 dman with size, then i am very excited for next season.

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07-30-2012, 06:10 PM
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Wonder if he'd be reunited with Huds?

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07-30-2012, 06:12 PM
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Wonder if he'd be reunited with Huds?
I doubt it since Hudler will very likely be on the 2nd line behind Iginla. Flipper would likely be our 1st line center.

Unless they tried something crazy like:

Cammy-Flipper-Hudler
Tanguary-Cervenka-Iginla

that would be odd though..

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07-30-2012, 06:13 PM
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If this happens, no doubt that Filppula is the 1st line center.

Cammy Filppula Iggy
Tangs Cervenka Hudler
Baertschi Backlund Glencross
Stempniak Stajan Comeau

Is more likely I think.
That was my 1st thought to, but my thinking is why break up Filppula and Huder? If they already produce well together, I'd rather keep them together to give us another good scoring threat.

Iggy has had great chemistry with both Tangs and Cammy in the past, so I like that lineup. Either way, I think both combo's would be tried.

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07-30-2012, 06:15 PM
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That was my 1st thought to, but my thinking is why break up Filppula and Huder? If they already produce well together, I'd rather keep them together to give us another good scoring threat.

Iggy has had great chemistry with both Tangs and Cammy in the past, so I like that lineup. Either way, I think both combo's would be tried.
You're right that they would likely try both, I was just thinking for the start of the season. I don't really see them starting Cervenka on the top line when hes never touched NHL ice, thats all.

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07-30-2012, 06:16 PM
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Stajan + Babchuk + Howse

for

Kaberle

I think Montreal considers that..
I really like that, I also think they may do it without Howse.

Or we could just sign Colaiacovo guys.

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07-30-2012, 06:18 PM
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You're right that they would likely try both, I was just thinking for the start of the season. I don't really see them starting Cervenka on the top line when hes never touched NHL ice, thats all.
This is a good thing when we cannot fit everyone of our top 6 players into the top 6. Let chemistry build naturally. All I know is that no matter how you look at it our top 6 is vastly improved from last season. Hell, our top 9 is vastly improved if Bartschi can put up points.

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07-30-2012, 06:19 PM
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You're right that they would likely try both, I was just thinking for the start of the season. I don't really see them starting Cervenka on the top line when hes never touched NHL ice, thats all.
For sure, even though we signed Cervenka for a center he's played played wing before thats why I have him on the LW. It would give us lots of options.

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07-30-2012, 06:19 PM
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I really like that, I also think they may do it without Howse.

Or we could just sign Colaiacovo guys.
From everything i've heard, Colaiacovo would be a downgrade from Ericsson.

I think we would have to go after a true #4 guy like Kaberle.

Then again, maybe Brodie will be ready for 2nd pairing duty this year?

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07-30-2012, 06:27 PM
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Not a fan of the rumor. I don't see much in Filppula or Ericsson; just another 2nd or 3rd line centre and a #4 defensemen. Would rather keep Bouwmeester.

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Why was Bouwmeester a -21 this year? Was he just relied on/hung out to dry too much or did he have trouble playing defense?

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07-30-2012, 06:31 PM
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From everything i've heard, Colaiacovo would be a downgrade from Ericsson.

I think we would have to go after a true #4 guy like Kaberle.

Then again, maybe Brodie will be ready for 2nd pairing duty this year?
Thats actually a really good point.

Gio Wideman
Brodie Butler
Ericsson Sarich

As long as Brodie is ready to take that next step, I think we would be ok.

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07-30-2012, 06:33 PM
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Why was Bouwmeester a -21 this year? Was he just relied on/hung out to dry too much or did he have trouble playing defense?
I would say he was given a lot of
responsibility defensively, almost to much for his style of game. He needs to be in a more offensive system and the fact that we didn't score a ton of goals, he was hung out to dry.

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07-30-2012, 06:35 PM
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Why was Bouwmeester a -21 this year? Was he just relied on/hung out to dry too much or did he have trouble playing defense?
He was paired with Butler for the entire year. That is why.

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07-30-2012, 06:43 PM
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Anyone know what he was in the Boston game lol?

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07-30-2012, 06:50 PM
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Anyone know what he was in the Boston game lol?
-5 in Boston, and 4 days earlier was -5 against Nashville.

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07-30-2012, 06:54 PM
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This is a bad offer for the Flames. Behindthenet absolutely insulted Filppulla, and Ericsson is no where near Jbow calibre. Oh God Feaster, please use your head.

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I wonder what would need to be added to the deal if Ericsson was changed to Quincey. That is a deal I would definitely be behind.

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07-30-2012, 07:09 PM
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I wonder what would need to be added to the deal if Ericsson was changed to Quincey. That is a deal I would definitely be behind.
A third round pick or equivalent prospect?

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07-30-2012, 07:14 PM
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This is a bad offer for the Flames. Behindthenet absolutely insulted Filppulla, and Ericsson is no where near Jbow calibre. Oh God Feaster, please use your head.
Filppula did have some of the toughest minutes behind Lidstrom on the Wings, had the best points per 60 minutes out of all Wings. He wasn't nearly as bad as that article made him look.

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07-30-2012, 07:23 PM
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Ericsson is useless. The deal is basically Bouwmeester for Filppula.

I think we can do better than that, even though I think Filppula is a very solid piece.

Honestly, somebody like Jurco has to be in this deal. I may do Bouwmeester for Filppula + Jurco.

Also, we better be ready to outscore the competition. We won't have a very good GAA without Bouwmeester.

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07-30-2012, 07:28 PM
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Ericsson is useless. The deal is basically Bouwmeester for Filppula.

I think we can do better than that, even though I think Filppula is a very solid piece.

Honestly, somebody like Jurco has to be in this deal. I may do Bouwmeester for Filppula + Jurco.

Also, we better be ready to outscore the competition. We won't have a very good GAA without Bouwmeester.
Ericsson is much more than useless and your GAA wasn't great with JBo. I'm not trolling just telling it like I see it. Ericsson was one of the best, if not the best defenseman for the last 30 games + playoffs for the Wings. He is a very good penalty killer too.

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Ericsson is much more than useless and your GAA wasn't great with JBo. I'm not trolling just telling it like I see it. Ericsson was one of the best, if not the best defenseman for the last 30 games + playoffs for the Wings. He is a very good penalty killer too.
In terms of value, I don't think the rumour is a bad trade for the Flames at all.

However, moving Bouwmeester creates a big hole. And while I really like Filppula, I do think there needs to be a little more motivation here.

This trade may be good value for the Flames, but it may just make us a worse team.

Plus, Filppula will be a UFA after next season. That season may not even occur. We'd be trading Bouwmeester for nothing.


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Ericsson is much more than useless and your GAA wasn't great with JBo. I'm not trolling just telling it like I see it. Ericsson was one of the best, if not the best defenseman for the last 30 games + playoffs for the Wings. He is a very good penalty killer too.
How you would feel about the deal if Ericsson was swapped with Quincey? Leave the draft picks out.

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