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07-28-2012, 11:31 AM
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Only Gustafsson and a 1st for him? Done.
So, now I'm thinking we need to be asking for more.

Gus seems like he's gonna be decent, may become a top 4 guy. How do the Flyers view him?

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07-28-2012, 11:35 AM
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It's not just Bouwmeester either. I honestly believe that 85% of the threads I read through on the main forum have some form of negativity thrown towards this team.

Of the five years I have spent reading (and eventually posting) on this site, I have never seen so much unsubstantiated hate heaped upon a certain team.

I seriously hope we perform this upcoming season for no other reason but to prove all of the pessimists wrong.

As you said, it is truly infuriating at times to read through the same drivel on a day to day basis.

I say keep Bouwmeester! **** the haters Jay!.
I completely agree, it is utter BS! The reason we get that though, is because all the media and the like keeps saying we need to do a scorch the earth rebuild because its the sexy thing to talk to about for ratings. Also, Sutter made some very controversial moves in his final season that had people scratching their heads. And until we completely do tear it down, OR we get in the playoff and reach a WCF, I believe the hate will continue.

I'm with you though, I say **** them all and I think we should keep Jbo to. I don't think we will get the return we need for him so lets see what he do under Hartley and with Wideman or Gio.

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07-28-2012, 12:26 PM
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jay boo

to detroit
jay bowmeester
mikael backlund

to calgary
johan franzen
jan mursak
joey macdonald
second round draft pick 2013

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07-28-2012, 12:34 PM
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to detroit
jay bowmeester
mikael backlund

to calgary
johan franzen
jan mursak
joey macdonald
second round draft pick 2013
I said this in the other thread and I will say it here Holy **** no!

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07-28-2012, 05:04 PM
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To Pittsburgh
Bouwmeester
The Anton


To Calgary
Crosby
Malkin
1st rounders for next 5 years
5 best prospects

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07-28-2012, 05:21 PM
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I like it but doubt Detroit does, maybe add Babchuk and I think it could work. Really like Quincey

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07-28-2012, 05:49 PM
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to detroit
jay bowmeester
mikael backlund

to calgary
johan franzen
jan mursak
joey macdonald
second round draft pick 2013
That's ****ing Terrible.

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07-28-2012, 06:07 PM
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Blues fan here,

I really don't think Army would trade both Cole & Rattie in a trade for J Bo. Cole will be in the Blues top 6 starting this season. He is a good dman right now with potential to be great. He has 1st pairing potential, it's just that the Blues are looking to make a run at deep into the playoffs, and he's a little bit of an unknown. Most Blues fans can see his talent, but some are afraid that he isn't experienced enough for a team looking to make a run in this years playoffs. If he plays all 82 games, he should be ready to have an impact in the P.O.'s, but hes just not the known commodity that JBo is.

I can understand that most of the Flames fans want Rattie in any deal involving JBo, but I don't think he will get moved either. He just destroyed the WHL(with help from Sven) and the Blues org. seems to be VERY high on him. In a Blues chat with the Blues beat reporter, a fan asked if the Blues would include him in a trade, JR was adiment that the Blues only move him in a blockbuster type trade for a legit difference maker. Maybe JBo could be that player, but I don't know if Army see's him as that player. There was a rumor that Army offered Dags and draft picks, but Feaster, rightfully so, turned down the offer.

I just don't see the Blues involving both of those players in a deal for JBo. Maybe one or the other, but definitely not both. I'm not taking a shot at JBo, so please dont take it that way, but Rattie and Cole are our 3rd and 4th best prospects. That's a lot to give up for the budget minded Blues. They HAVE to keep cheap players coming up through the system, to augment the core. If Feaster can get a package comparable to that one from another team, then good for him, but he's not getting that package from the Blues.

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07-28-2012, 07:03 PM
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^^^

Good, sensible post. In your opinion, would the Blues part with Cole and Rattie if Backlund was included with Jbo?

Backlund has a tailored made game for a Hitch system IMO, he would fill your need for a #3C, he's young (fits the core age of your team) and he has top 6 potential. Lots of people are still extremely high on him here in Calgary but we have other young center's that are nipping at Backlund's heels so he may be available.

Personally, I think Jbo and Backlund for Cole and Rattie is a very fair deal for both sides.

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07-28-2012, 09:20 PM
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Dammit, I've been meaning to start this thread for the last 3 days but I've been to busy.

IMO, most likely destinations are: STL, Philly, Detroit, and Nashville.

Needs: If the Flames trade Bouwmeester, a must as part of the package would be a young, inexpensive dman that is top 4 ready now and has upside upon that.

Players that fit this mold: Cole, Gustafsson, Smith and Blum/Ellis/Jossi. So with any of teams listed, I would start there and then add draft picks/prospects.

STL: Cole and a 2nd, or Cole and Rattie
Philly: Gustafsson and a 1st
Detroit: Smith and a 2nd or Smith and Nyquist
Nash: Blum/Ellis and a 2nd

These are all trade scenarios that I would consider if I were Feaster, anything short of this and I keep Jbo.
No... no, last time I checked, we are trying to trade for Bouwmeester.

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07-29-2012, 10:23 AM
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jbo, bouma, the anton and a 3rd to st louis for sobotka, polak and rattie

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07-29-2012, 01:10 PM
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jbo, bouma, the anton and a 3rd to st louis for sobotka, polak and rattie
Rattie is the only player in that deal the Flames would have any interest in. Adding Bouma and a 3rd is laughable. Why would we do that? For Sobotka or Polak who we don't need?

No thanks.

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07-30-2012, 09:01 AM
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No more White in Detroit proposals
He was terrible in Calgary because he is a terrible player
I know Flames fans haven't forgotten how terrible he was and hopefully Flames management hasn't either - if he was the defensive replacement for JBO in a trade, this could end up being a step backwards season

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07-30-2012, 02:43 PM
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NSH wants him. Personally as a Preds fan we aren't going to give up Josi or Ellis I don't think. Management loves Ellis and Josi is a guy that we are looking to be a top 2 d-man.

We would give up blum + picks and maybe a forward. who would you guys want?

my proposal would be blum + ellis + pick for Jbo. but thats just me

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07-30-2012, 02:48 PM
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I remember when there was a decision that needed to be made on whether or not we kept White or Gio, I think we chose right. :wink:

@ Thecloser, how about: Jbo, Backlund, Byron for Blum/Ellis and Wilson?

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07-30-2012, 03:04 PM
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NSH wants him. Personally as a Preds fan we aren't going to give up Josi or Ellis I don't think. Management loves Ellis and Josi is a guy that we are looking to be a top 2 d-man.

We would give up blum + picks and maybe a forward. who would you guys want?

my proposal would be blum + ellis + pick for Jbo. but thats just me
Blum + Ellis + 3rd/4th would be a good deal for us I think.

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07-30-2012, 03:33 PM
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I remember when there was a decision that needed to be made on whether or not we kept White or Gio, I think we chose right. :wink:

@ Thecloser, how about: Jbo, Backlund, Byron for Blum/Ellis and Wilson?
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Blum + Ellis + 3rd/4th would be a good deal for us I think.
Both these deals would be sweet from the Flames perspective in my opinion!
Especially if we somehow got Blum and Wilson... I doubt Nashville would be willing to give up both of them

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07-30-2012, 04:23 PM
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http://nhlfanchat.com/articles/red-w...bouwmeester--2

Detroit has fielded an offer for JBouw. What do you think?

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07-30-2012, 04:40 PM
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If that's a real offer I would take it.

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07-30-2012, 04:44 PM
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http://nhlfanchat.com/articles/red-w...bouwmeester--2

Detroit has fielded an offer for JBouw. What do you think?
Don't like it. I don't trust Flips as anything more than a mediocre 2nd line centre (one season of 66 points at the age of 27 does not make him a great player), and I've never heard anything particularly good about Ericsson. If it occurs it'll end up being another version of the Phaneuf deal. "Aw yeah, we got rid of that JBo's stupid underperforming contract! Look at all these players in return!" followed by Filppula regressing to ~.5 ppg (or worse, knowing the Flames) and Ericsson playing as a 4/5 defenceman when he can't hack it as anything better.

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I will say that if this deal did happen, I have an epic bump from a deal I proposed about a year ago..

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to detroit
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mikael backlund

to calgary
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jan mursak
joey macdonald
second round draft pick 2013
Yes please.

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07-30-2012, 08:44 PM
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http://nhlfanchat.com/articles/red-w...bouwmeester--2

Detroit has fielded an offer for JBouw. What do you think?
I don't like it because of Ericsson would prefer Quincey.

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