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07-31-2012, 08:09 PM
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None of that makes any difference to his trade value at all. Or we could say, Chara has been a top 3 defenseman for the last 3-4 seasons at least, and likely will for another 3-5 seasons easily... so Chara >>>>>>>>> Eberle (which he is anyways).
Maybe not his "trade value" but it sure as hell impacts the Oilers "should I actually trade this player?" value.

Trading Jordan Eberle would be a PR debacle for the Oilers. No matter what we got back, even if it was Sidney Crosby, they'd be run out of town for simply not being Jordan Eberle.


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Maybe not his "trade value" but it sure as hell impacts the Oilers "should I actually trade this player?" value.

Trading Jordan Eberle would be a PR debacle for the Oilers. No matter what we got back, even if it was Sidney Crosby, they'd be run out of town for simply not being Jordan Eberle.

I lol'd. EDM fans would be ******* themselves with joy if they got crosby for eberle.

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Maybe not his "trade value" but it sure as hell impacts the Oilers "should I actually trade this player?" value.

Trading Jordan Eberle would be a PR debacle for the Oilers. No matter what we got back, even if it was Sidney Crosby, they'd be run out of town for simply not being Jordan Eberle.

I agree if Edmonton traded Eberle for Crosby there would be riots in the streets of Edmonton!

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I don't think so, although there are some pieces I like in there.

Let us know if you want to move seguin for some complimentary pieces though. My assumption is no.

I would do eberle for seguin and Hamilton though, and even then I would have to think about it. Ebs just came off a 76 point season as a sophomore, so he's not going anywhere,
Since when is Krecji a complimentary piece?

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I actually didn't really value Whitney very highly here, but if we are shipping off Boychuk then we would need a D coming back and Whitney is the most realistic here and his salary would help offset the additional money Edmonton is taking on.
Eberle is definitley considerably more valuable than those you mentioned I think because he put up more points than all of them in his 21 year old season. That's impressive. He's got another year at cheap money and under the team's control for a few more to follow. Plus there is the upside factor with him. 70+ in his 2nd season. Who knows where he goes from here.
Eberle as an undersized, one-year wonder, must be considered amongst the possibilities. That's the reality, for any young player, until 70-point seasons become the norm.

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Eberle is god in Edmonton. He's treated like a moviestar and the fans would burn down the arena if he was traded.

Counter with

Gagner, Whitney and a 2nd(30-40 overall imo) for

Krejci and 2nd(45-60 imo)

Opens a spot for Klefbom, gets Whitney in Boston where it seems he'll end up eventually, very good upgrade to Gagner at 2C. And opens up a spot for Seguin to play C in the big league.

Value might be off here. Just throwing stuff out there.
A pick or prospect in place of gagner would be more ideal.

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Maybe not his "trade value" but it sure as hell impacts the Oilers "should I actually trade this player?" value.

Trading Jordan Eberle would be a PR debacle for the Oilers. No matter what we got back, even if it was Sidney Crosby, they'd be run out of town for simply not being Jordan Eberle.

lol. wut.

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Eberle as an undersized, one-year wonder, must be considered amongst the possibilities. That's the reality, for any young player, until 70-point seasons become the norm.
Well yeah, like you said. It's only done once until you've done it twice. Seguin is in that category too. Every player who has ever lived who was great was there. Some rise, some fall.

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Boston
Jordan Eberle
Ryan Whitney

Edmonton
David Krejci
2013 1st round pick
2014 1st round pick
Johnny Boychuk
Jordan Caron/Jared Knight

I think Edmonton gets some really nice pieces here for their team that add versatility, cost certainty, and toughness that go along way towards making them a more complete team and a contender for a Stanley Cup.

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The two 1st round picks are going to be in the late 20s so there is not too much value in them. Caron is already a bust and Knight we have a few players that are just as good as him so those three things are no value in a trade. Krejci would be a perfect number two but nothing close to Eberle, and Boychuk is a nice additon but if Whitney comes back some what healthy then he is a lot better than Boychuk.

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The two 1st round picks are going to be in the late 20s so there is not too much value in them. Caron is already a bust and Knight we have a few players that are just as good as him so those three things are no value in a trade. Krejci would be a perfect number two but nothing close to Eberle, and Boychuk is a nice additon but if Whitney comes back some what healthy then he is a lot better than Boychuk.
Is prv a bust?

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Is prv a bust?
No - I'd say he'll likely rebound. Don't know if he'll score 15 again, now that Edmonton has Hall, Yakupov, Eberle, etc. ahead of him. I wouldn't be shocked to see him as a third line penalty killer with Edmonton this upcoming season, playing with Horcoff.

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Edmonton doesn't need anymore picks. Oilers need a #1/2 dman and a #2 center. Something with Seguin, Hamilton, Bergeron, and/or Krejci if Boston wants Eberle.

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Maybe not his "trade value" but it sure as hell impacts the Oilers "should I actually trade this player?" value.

Trading Jordan Eberle would be a PR debacle for the Oilers. No matter what we got back, even if it was Sidney Crosby, they'd be run out of town for simply not being Jordan Eberle.

WOW! This is right up there with this.

and I apologize in advance to my USA neighbors.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww

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No - I'd say he'll likely rebound. Don't know if he'll score 15 again, now that Edmonton has Hall, Yakupov, Eberle, etc. ahead of him. I wouldn't be shocked to see him as a third line penalty killer with Edmonton this upcoming season, playing with Horcoff.
Lol I know he's not I just wanted to prove a point that Caron's not either.

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It's not that bad, but I don't think Boston should add that many prospects or draft picks.

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Lol I know he's not I just wanted to prove a point that Caron's not either.
Caron, on the other hand, is clearly a bust.

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Pass from Edmonton. While Krejci would certainly be an upgrade on Gagner, if we're trading for a center, it really needs to be someone with some size and toughness, like a Dave Bolland, as opposed to another skilled guy.

Oh, and plus I don't want to trade Eberle.

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If Edmonton is trading Eberle to Boston, Lucic is the one coming back

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Boston
Jordan Eberle
Ryan Whitney

Edmonton
David Krejci
2013 1st round pick
2014 1st round pick
Johnny Boychuk
Jordan Caron/Jared Knight
LMAO this package gets you an elite player along the lines of Datsyuk, Spezza, Kopitar... Eberle is not in those players' league

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I lol'd. EDM fans would be ******* themselves with joy if they got crosby for eberle.
This post made me laugh so hard. Some truly LOL worthy posts in this thread, most not intentional

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I actually didn't really value Whitney very highly here, but if we are shipping off Boychuk then we would need a D coming back and Whitney is the most realistic here and his salary would help offset the additional money Edmonton is taking on.

Eberle is definitley considerably more valuable than those you mentioned I think because he put up more points than all of them in his 21 year old season. That's impressive. He's got another year at cheap money and under the team's control for a few more to follow. Plus there is the upside factor with him. 70+ in his 2nd season. Who knows where he goes from here.
I understand you like him there's lots to like but are you forgetting Krejci had 73pts his rookie or sophomore year and he played on the 3rd line ..

Age is where the value holds between Krejci and Eberle but not +++ need more proof yet for this specially when you add Boychuk Knight as your plus's ... Caron okay and our 1st's sure but lets not get carried away ..

I want a guarantee if we trade Krejci and Edmonton probably feels the same but I do guarantee you if this does happen Krejci's get 70 pts on Edmonton easily with there run and gun approach and PP has been insanely better then ours ..

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I don't think so, although there are some pieces I like in there.

Let us know if you want to move seguin for some complimentary pieces though. My assumption is no.

I would do eberle for seguin and Hamilton though, and even then I would have to think about it. Ebs just came off a 76 point season as a sophomore, so he's not going anywhere,
Really? I get Edmonton's love for the kid... He's a stud. (I even like him as a Flames fan.) but "you'd have to think about it?" ... Seguin / Ham >> Eberle.

As for the OP's package. The only way to get a special player, is to give up something special. Seguin would have to be involved... The package was good, but don't see Edmonton doing it.

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Seguin and Hamilton for Eberle is a no-brainer.

As an Oiler fan I would be pretty upset moving Ebs, but it fills 2 huge holes moving forward and likely makes us a better team moving forward without question.

That being said, there's no ONE piece on the Bruins I would trade Eberle for right now, and I get the feeling management feels the same way.

I think the closest value is Seguin, and when it comes to Seguin vs Eberle I think both teams are happy with their guys staying put.

Just far too much invested in him in every facet of the game to trade him right now, unless it is a no-brainer.

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Really? I get Edmonton's love for the kid... He's a stud. (I even like him as a Flames fan.) but "you'd have to think about it?" ... Seguin / Ham >> Eberle.

As for the OP's package. The only way to get a special player, is to give up something special. Seguin would have to be involved... The package was good, but don't see Edmonton doing it.
Eberle > Seguin and there's no telling exactly how Hamilton will end up. Plus, Eberle loves being an Oiler and is basically a god in Edmonton

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Seguin and Hamilton for Eberle is a no-brainer.

As an Oiler fan I would be pretty upset moving Ebs, but it fills 2 huge holes moving forward and likely makes us a better team moving forward without question.

That being said, there's no ONE piece on the Bruins I would trade Eberle for right now, and I get the feeling management feels the same way.

I think the closest value is Seguin, and when it comes to Seguin vs Eberle I think both teams are happy with their guys staying put.

Just far too much invested in him in every facet of the game to trade him right now, unless it is a no-brainer.
This. I would feel pretty badly if Chia traded Seguin, the kid is the B's future and the same goes for Eberle for Edmonton. There is no need for the Bruins or Edmonton to trade either of their young and upcoming stars. I just dont't see the reason for this kind of proposal and what is included for the B's to give up.

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