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07-31-2012, 11:50 AM
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So nasty.
Damn. That was nasty. Reminds me of a young Rick Ankiel.

The kid works fast too. That's a refreshing change of pace from the vast majority of MLB starters.

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Don't think I can ever remember a TDL like this one. Players being moved left and right. Phillies and Marlins are going to be somewhat of a shell of their former selves and I love it.!

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This Blanton thing just reeks total failure.

Why Im I letting the Orioles do this to me?

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Meh, I'd take Blanton for a mid-level prospect. He's better than the hodge-podge the O's have in the bottom half of the rotation.

They need a bat or two as well.

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07-31-2012, 01:49 PM
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Meh, I'd take Blanton for a mid-level prospect.
I agree...but nothing much more. Someone like Ryan Adams or something. I just dont want to see Duquette get talked into a bad trade.

Thome appears to be broken, so they do need a bat. Not that his bat was scorching or anything.

Meh.

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I agree...but nothing much more. Someone like Ryan Adams or something. I just dont want to see Duquette get talked into a bad trade.

Thome appears to be broken, so they do need a bat. Not that his bat was scorching or anything.

Meh.
Yup. Odds are likely that anyone below Schoop will be ruined by the O's system anyway. Might as well get a real player for them

Garza would be nice. But he'll go to the Yankess for crap. Sigh.

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I just read this list of deadline deals with the Orioles in the Angelos era. How depressing.

The Koji deal last year being the only one of any substance.


2011: Koji for Chris Davis, Tommy Hunter
2010: Tejada for Wynn Pelzer, Ohman for van den Hurk
2009: Sherrill for Steve Johnson, Josh Bell
2008: None
2007: None
2006: None
2005: Bigbie for Eric Byrnes
2004: None
2003: Ponson for Ryan Hannaman, Kurt Ainsworth, Damian Moss
2002: None
2001: Trombley for Kris Foster, Geronimo Gil
2000 (Firesale): Baines and Johnson for Jason Lakman, Juan Figueroa, Miguel Felix , Brook Fordyce
Molina and Surhoff for Trent Hubbard, Fernando Lunar, Luis Rivera
Clark for Jose Leon
Aracena for Anthony Shumaker
1999: Guzman for Jacobo Sequea, B.J. Ryan
1998: Carter, Rodriguez for Juan Guzman
1997: Bautista for Harold Baines. Johnson for Everett Stull
1996: None
1995: Buford, Ochoa for Bobby Bonilla, Jimmy Williams
1994: None

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Garza would be nice. But he'll go to the Yankess for crap. Sigh.
Sounds like Dempster is a possibility for them. Even more of an upgrade.

The O's should move the comp. pick similar to the Pirates did in picking up Sanchez.

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Yeah, that was anti climatic.

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Yup. Odds are likely that anyone below Schoop will be ruined by the O's system anyway. Might as well get a real player for them

Garza would be nice. But he'll go to the Yankess for crap. Sigh.
I'd keep the lesser Bundy as well, if for no other reason than keeping his brother happy.

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I just read this list of deadline deals with the Orioles in the Angelos era. How depressing.

The Koji deal last year being the only one of any substance.
The Sherill trade had some substance as well until Josh Bell completely flamed out.

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Dylan Bundy is the only untouchable, for me at least. I'd move Machado in the right deal, say for example in a David Wright package.

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Oh well.

I'm fine with them sticking it out. I'd like to see Chavez DFAed and Avery or Hoes get a shot in left going forward.

And here's hoping they throw some money around at free agents. There are definite upgrades available for left field and starting pitching. That way, they might actually have an excess of assets to use at next year's deadline.

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Oh well.

I'm fine with them sticking it out. I'd like to see Chavez DFAed and Avery or Hoes get a shot in left going forward.

And here's hoping they throw some money around at free agents. There are definite upgrades available for left field and starting pitching. That way, they might actually have an excess of assets to use at next year's deadline.
Reimold should hopefully be back next season, so unless we go big and nab Hamilton, I'm not terribly worried about LF (though I wouldn't be opposed to an addition there so long as it doesn't prohibit other moves). Would rather target corner infielders. Priority #1 has to be the rotation. They need to add at least one top half of the rotation guy, preferably two.

Also wouldn't mind picking up someone like Fontenot to take over 2B when Roberts inevitably gets injured or struggles.

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I have no faith whatsoever in Reimold coming back. Be it mental or physical health issues, he hasn't been able to stay an ML regular yet in his career.

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Man this game is hard to watch...

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07-31-2012, 08:23 PM
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Geronimo Gil! Man, that's a name. The thing with most of those trades is pretty much other than Sherrill, most were crap for crap. they weren't giving up a ton, and they weren't getting much back. o's haven't really ever sold the farm or traded out an all star. The Molina and Surhoff trade was trading with the Braves, and everyone knows how that worked out back then when the Braves were the smart guys in the room.

ha. the hold up in the Blanton deal was the O's refusing to pay most of the 3 million he's owed.

Angelos needs to go. He's like Castro.

I'm sorry, but you don't sell Machado either. For pretty much anything. They need more prospects with his ceiling, not less.


They're also not going to spend in the offseason, and that's ok. Keep what you've got. Maybe move Wieters on next deadline for parts if he's unable to find out how to hit. You can't really go for it until Bundy's here, and a pitcher or two turn out better.

I might have actually sold some parts, though, that's a hard sell to a team and fanbase that's been awful for so long.

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07-31-2012, 09:08 PM
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Maybe move Wieters on next deadline for parts if he's unable to find out how to hit.
I think this is the dumbest thing I have ever read.

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07-31-2012, 09:21 PM
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I think this is the dumbest thing I have ever read.
Uh, I don't think he's that good with the bat. He's hitting .240 this season, with low power numbers and a big loop in his swing.

I think the cost to resign him is way more than what his probable value to the team is.


He's not like Adam Jones this year who forced their hand. If he has an Adam Jones breakout year, then, yeah, you pay what he needs. But if he's hitting sub .250, minimal numbers, you sell.

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Uh, I don't think he's that good with the bat. He's hitting .240 this season, with low power numbers and a big loop in his swing.

I think the cost to resign him is way more than what his probable value to the team is.


He's not like Adam Jones this year who forced their hand. If he has an Adam Jones breakout year, then, yeah, you pay what he needs. But if he's hitting sub .250, minimal numbers, you sell.
He calls a hell of a game and is very solid defensively. Batting-wise, I always thought he looked more comfortable as a righty, but I highly doubt he'll consider staying there permanently.

@Machado I just don't buy his ceiling of A-Rod, I see him being Hanley Ramirez-lite. I wouldn't trade him in a package of anything short of a star; i.e. Felix Hernandez, David Wright, etc.. He's untouchable as far as management views him and I'm fine with that.

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Uh, I don't think he's that good with the bat. He's hitting .240 this season, with low power numbers and a big loop in his swing.

I think the cost to resign him is way more than what his probable value to the team is.


He's not like Adam Jones this year who forced their hand. If he has an Adam Jones breakout year, then, yeah, you pay what he needs. But if he's hitting sub .250, minimal numbers, you sell.
He's a catcher. A elite defensive catcher. High end hitting from your catcher is a bonus, not an expectation. If he was a first baseman, you might have a point.

Not only that, you're advocating selling low on a player with elite potential.

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Wieters is 8th in the Major Leagues among catchers in fWAR this season (with the best defensive rating) and he's typically a late-season hitter.

He's also is under control at least through the 2016 season.

You don't sell him.

And I don''t think it's okay for them not to spend. They'll never close the gap for an extended period of time if they don't. Tampa Bay is an anomaly that drafted and developed better than any organization in baseball.

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Nice win from the O's last night and nice recovery from Tillman after giving up 4 in the first.

I like Chris Davis. He strikes out a bunch, but he's got some power.

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I like Chris Davis. He strikes out a bunch, but he's got some power.
Who on the team does that not describe?

Every time I think this team is done, they go on a mini winning streak to keep themselves in contention. Then I get excited and they drop two or three in a row.

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Who on the team does that not describe?
Ha. That's what happens when you have 5 DH/1B/LF types.

I do like Davis the best of that bunch though. I think he's definitely got a future with the organization. The others not so much.

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