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Devils Prospect Poll 2012- #3

View Poll Results: New Jersey Devils Prospect Ranking- #3
Graham Black 0 0%
Brandon Burlon 0 0%
Reid Boucher 1 1.43%
Blake Coleman 0 0%
Keith Kinkaid 0 0%
Stefan Matteau 10 14.29%
Reese Scarlett 0 0%
Damon Severson 0 0%
Alex Urbom 25 35.71%
Scott Wedgewood 34 48.57%
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08-01-2012, 07:39 AM
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08-01-2012, 07:45 AM
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Wedge, add Helgeson.

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08-01-2012, 07:54 AM
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Urbom. Couldn't go with a goaltender yet. Also, I have Kinkaid ahead of Wedgewood, although I wouldn't be surprised in the least if Wedgewood is the man after Marty. Then again, I wouldn't be surprised if the man after Marty is somebody else entirely.

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What does IT factor mean coming out of junior as a goalie with ok numbers.

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08-01-2012, 08:22 AM
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What does IT factor mean coming out of junior as a goalie with ok numbers.
Pretty much nothing. But he has stolen OHL playoff series before, and he did pretty well at the WJC. That speaks well for his ability to show up in big games. I like his mechanics too, he isn't a pure butterfly goalie and his save selections remind me of Marty a bit. He also likes playing the puck.

I want to see what he can do at a professional level before I judge him, but my gut says he is a future starter.

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08-01-2012, 08:34 AM
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Urbom, add some one.

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911 svp is pretty good for juniors especially when your team kinda sucks.

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911 svp is pretty good for juniors especially when your team kinda sucks.
How did his team kinda suck? They had 97 points, tied for second in the league and 2 points behind the top team.

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08-01-2012, 09:12 AM
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He wasn't even the best goalie on his team using numbers.

Mahalak had a .923 with a 2.66 GAA
Wedgewood had a .911 with 3.02 GAA

He does have a good playoff track record though. I will give him that. Except we'll need a goalie to play the regular season first.

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Urbom, goalies are dicey.

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He wasn't even the best goalie on his team using numbers.

Mahalak had a .923 with a 2.66 GAA
Wedgewood had a .911 with 3.02 GAA

He does have a good playoff track record though. I will give him that. Except we'll need a goalie to play the regular season first.
And Hedberg is better than Marty then?

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How did his team kinda suck? They had 97 points, tied for second in the league and 2 points behind the top team.
Because their team is starved for talent and Wedgewood faced 40 shots per game. Like to see a better reason for a goalie having over 3.0 GAA and 91 svp

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Because their team is starved for talent and Wedgewood faced 40 shots per game. Like to see a better reason for a goalie having over 3.0 GAA and 91 svp
This.

You don't get that high a sv% with that GAA unless you're getting spammed with shots every night.

I'm going to disregard minutes in relief and go on the assumption that he played full games only, to make this simple and quick. With a 3.02 GAA and a .911 sv%, he was exposed to an average of 33.9 shots per game.

I'm sure that if you go further and remove the relief minutes (which are bound to contain anomalies in save percentage due to small sample size), this total creeps up to 35-36 shots per game. THIS bit is pulled out of my rear, because I don't have the game logs with me. The mathematical principle is valid, though.


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one year in the playoffs

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My question is why wedge is stated to have the "IT" factor and making him our #3 prospect and the only answer I've been given is i dunno he plays well during the playoffs before they get eliminated after 10 games.

Then a SV% was thrown at me while his teammate has a better SV% and regular season numbers. Enough to have him benched for the stretch run.

So take 2, what about Wedge is #3 prospect outside of a playoff run. I haven't seen anything that really stands out goaltending wise. He can play the puck well but that isn't really a dealbreaker when compared against all our prospects. This a lightning in a bottle kind of player or we hoping he finds consistency?

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As much as I love statistics, I don't even try to read into junior goalie stats. Way too much uncertainty and variables floating around.

And I would never consider a prospect good simply on his performance in a couple playoff runs. Sustained success is much more impressive.

Not that Wedgewood won't be good, though.

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And Hedberg is better than Marty then?



Because their team is starved for talent and Wedgewood faced 40 shots per game. Like to see a better reason for a goalie having over 3.0 GAA and 91 svp
How do you figure his team is starved for talent. They scored 279 goals, the second most in the league. They were fourth in GAA. If you do the math, it works out to 33.9 shots per game. (2482 min / 60 = 41.3666 games played. 1403 shots / 41.3666 = 33.91625 shots per game)

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