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08-01-2012, 03:02 PM
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Klef hasn't played a game in the NHL and some oiler fans think he is worth more than a 22 year old 28 goal scorer. Sigh. Too many years of losing does this to you.
Has anyone said that Klefbom is worth more than Simmonds? I know a few have said they wouldn't do the deal, and I wouldn't either, but its not that the value isn't there. Its that Klefbom is our best defense prospect and our big holes are defense, while our biggest surplus is wingers. If Simmonds could play center I'd be more willing to offer a huge package, but Simmonds could likely end up third line in Edmonton.

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08-01-2012, 04:15 PM
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Klefbom's gonna be a top 4 d-man and this is fair value, but I think Philly will stick with their proven young guns.
In my mind Belanger and the 2nd rounder even out, and Rinaldo is worthless in a trade.


So...Simmonds is like 23 and scored 28 goals last year in addition to doing a lot of other good things. That is only worth a prospect second pairing defender...how is this a fair trade?

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08-01-2012, 04:20 PM
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I see Klefbom as a good 4/5 D-man... Maybe it's just me but is offense is pretty meh.

Simmonds is by far the best player in this deal.

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08-01-2012, 05:02 PM
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I see Klefbom as a good 4/5 D-man... Maybe it's just me but is offense is pretty meh.

Simmonds is by far the best player in this deal.
Its so easy to predict the top end of a 19 year old defenseman. That's probably why its just you. I think its a safe bet that Klefbom is a 4/5 IF he gets no offense to his game. But the tools are there, and if he puts it all together, he'll be amazing. Which is why Oiler fans are not really impressed with the thought of trading him, even if it is for a guy like Simmonds.

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I see Klefbom as a good 4/5 D-man... Maybe it's just me but is offense is pretty meh.

Simmonds is by far the best player in this deal.
Admit it. You don't know a thing about Klefbom besides that he's an Oilers prospect so the Canuck fan in you naturally assumes that he must be junk. There isnt a professional scout in the world that follows the SEL believes his ceiling is a 4/5 defenseman. Very rarely are young defenseman given the opportunity in the SEL on a good team.

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08-01-2012, 05:31 PM
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Oiler fans need to stop trying to get rid of Hemsky and Gagner. Even when the proposal isn't about them, they become part of the counter proposal almost immediately, every time. lol.
Dont forget bout Belanger and Horcoff

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08-01-2012, 10:47 PM
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while you do seem to be mad? Angry?


Potential 30 goal scorers are rare.
there are only 30 30G guys a year.

But for us:
Hall
Eberle
RNH
Yakupov
Rieder

that is 5 potential that could cost us 5M+ each.
That "potential" the Oilers fans value above actually winning.

KLowe should open a used car lot in Edmonton since the fans would all buy from "Honest Kevin".

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08-01-2012, 10:56 PM
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Dont forget bout Belanger and Horcoff
Horcoff gets brought into NO threads, same with Belanger. You really have no idea what your talking about....

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08-01-2012, 11:29 PM
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Would need more for Simmonds...and I am unwilling to part with Klefbom so no thank you.

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Admit it. You don't know a thing about Klefbom besides that he's an Oilers prospect so the Canuck fan in you naturally assumes that he must be junk. There isnt a professional scout in the world that follows the SEL believes his ceiling is a 4/5 defenseman. Very rarely are young defenseman given the opportunity in the SEL on a good team.
Agreed. Klefbom has legit #1 dman upside. Whether he hits that potential remains to be seen

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I see Klefbom as a good 4/5 D-man... Maybe it's just me but is offense is pretty meh.

Simmonds is by far the best player in this deal.
And how often do you watch him? And dont use WJC cause he was great in that tournament, hence why he was a tournament all star.

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