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2012 Minnesota #8 Prospect

View Poll Results: Who is the 8th-best Minnesota Wild Prospect?
Brett Bulmer 62 57.41%
Raphael Bussieres 1 0.93%
Tyler Cuma 0 0%
John Draeger 0 0%
Adam Gilmour 0 0%
Tyler Graovac 0 0%
Daniel Gunnarsson 0 0%
Johan Gustafsson 0 0%
Erik Haula 0 0%
Steven Kampfer 0 0%
Darcy Kuemper 0 0%
Mario Lucia 1 0.93%
Zack Phillips 44 40.74%
Nick Seeler 0 0%
Other (please explain) 0 0%
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08-01-2012, 10:39 PM
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Not a huge fan of Bulmer, he seems to not be very strong on the puck and sometimeseven looks lackadaisical.
Can't say I saw anything that would support that opinion from the scrimmages. In fact, a number of people complained about him being too intense.

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08-01-2012, 10:43 PM
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Went with Bulmer, to be what he has over phillips is that i see bulmer as a safer bet for the NHL impact. i think Bulmer can be a beast of a 3rd liner where as phillips not so much. still love both of them as prospects and it was a close decision

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08-01-2012, 11:07 PM
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I think very highly of both of them but with Phillips higher hockey IQ, it's hard for me not to pick him (even if Bulmer has more intangibles).

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Bulmer or Phillips...

One's NHL ready, but who's skill is perfect for the 3rd line role who contributes offensively, questions if he can be a top six forward.

Other one has huge offensive potential, but skating might hold him back from being anything else than a top six forward (boom or bust).

Hm...

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08-02-2012, 12:08 AM
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ZP. He's got loads of skill.

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08-02-2012, 12:13 AM
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Zach Phillips.

Upside too high to ignore. For everyone saying his stats were inflated because SJ was stacked, he won MVP on a stacked team due in part to the fact that he carried the team when Huberdeau was injured and before Coyle was there. I love Bulmer but kind of feel he gets overhyped in due part to how big he is in a somewhat undersized prospect pool.

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Went with ZP. To keep the poll close

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08-02-2012, 12:17 AM
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i think its just folks balancing potential vrs probability of making it. Most probably feel that Bulmer will be an NHLer one day, even if its as a third liner. Phillips seems to be pure boom or bust. I voted for Bulmer but find Phillips to be an incredibly interesting prospect.

Phillips as our 8th or 9th prospect (in MN HF board's opinion) is outstanding. If your gonna have a boom/bust prospect its nice to have them so deep on the list. I wonder where management 'ranks' him.

Who would you guys compare Phillips to in the NHL right now?
I often ponder this question myself.

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08-02-2012, 12:22 AM
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08-02-2012, 01:17 AM
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If I remember correctly, didn't his coach compare him to Adam Oates? Does everyone think that's a good comparison?

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Went with Bulmer over Phillips, but it's close.

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If I remember correctly, didn't his coach compare him to Adam Oates? Does everyone think that's a good comparison?
I've heard that comp thrown around a couple times and I think it's a decent one. I obviously don't think he will be as productive as Oates was in his career but he's a similar player with great vision and hands but not great foot speed.

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I've heard that comp thrown around a couple times and I think it's a decent one. I obviously don't think he will be as productive as Oates was in his career but he's a similar player with great vision and hands but not great foot speed.

We have 4 top forward prospects that are average skaters, i sure as hell hope there is a detailed plan.

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Joe Pavelski, maybe...

He's got great hands and vision, but average wheels. As far as Phillips projection in the NHL, I think a lot of you are discounting his compete level (lol). He could transition his game to suit a 3rd line role if there's no room for him in the top 6. He's got to be gritty. Look at the beard!

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Went with Phillips. Surprised Bulmer leads this to be honest, I like him but Phillips is a better prospect. We will see who is the better player later.

Also, gotta love our prospect pool.

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His defensive awareness and ability to play gritty and even fight easily allow him to play alot more than a top 6 role, although his offensive instincts are second probably only to Granlund. By the way Phillips skates every bit as well as Granlund and is alot tougher and bigger.
Phillips is also one year post draft as opposed to Bulmer, Larrson, Granlund, Coyle who are two years post draft, so Ill take that into account as well.
The UNDERVALUED one for me, Phillips.
Adam Oates, good comparison, thou I see Patriece Bergeron-(alot of the same cctritique was made of him-skating) and if he gets quicker Patrick Sharpe...good sized right handed shooting centerman are very desireable.

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Phillips is going to be number 9

That is so hilarious and yet so awesome. Our pool is deep.

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I have Bulmer a lot closer to Gillies than most of you guys.

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I have Bulmer a lot closer to Gillies than most of you guys.
Why? Other than their approximate height, they don't have any similarities.

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When I think Joe Pavelski, I think speed.

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Only 3 people have votes and one of them has a single one. That's a waste of 12 prospects.

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Not a huge fan of Bulmer, he seems to not be very strong on the puck and sometimeseven looks lackadaisical. Wasn't overly impressed by him when i watched him at the scrimmages in July.
I was at the Sunday scrimmage but that is not at all what I saw. The second half of the scrimmage he was dominating people physically out there. He was crashing and banging and making things happen all over the ice.

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Only 3 people have votes and one of them has a single one. That's a waste of 12 prospects.
Who knows, we could end up with a Cinderella Story with one of these polls. Some scrappy prospect comes out of nowhere to sway the voting hearts and minds of the posters?

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Why? Other than their approximate height, they don't have any similarities.
Neither were dominant in juniors offensively. Bulmer's had a little better points but the same or fewer goals. Gillies played at least in a couple international tournaments whereas Bulmer has zero international nods.

If Bulmer hadn't been kept up for 9 games last year I don't think he'd be rated anywhere near as high as he has been.

I do think Bulmer's got a little better hands than Gillies, possibly a little better scoring instincts...but I honestly don't see him as much more than Clutterbuck at the NHL level.

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