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08-01-2012, 11:07 AM
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08-01-2012, 11:17 AM
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The year of the alfietar?
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Class act. I hope he can pull out another season like last year. He's an inspiration to the team.

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08-01-2012, 11:59 AM
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Alfie's back is good to go alright.

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08-01-2012, 12:16 PM
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More than 35 points this season will be A OK with me. I hope the season starts on time so Alfie can play. Glad to have him back as captain
Your avatar is amazing.

Alfietars all season.

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anyone else see this? I wish we could do a poll of Alfie vs Sundin where no Sens fans or Leafs fans could vote. See what the league thinks of all those Leafs fans calling Alfie Krusty!

Cup Final vs No Cup Final
Clutch player vs a guy who couldnt get his team to 8th place since the lockout
Loyalty vs Money Chaser
Heart and Soul vs Needing heart and sould players
My favourite is the part where the Leaf fans say 'he has nothing to back up his dirtiness anymore' despite Alfie notching almost 30 goals last season.

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08-01-2012, 01:42 PM
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08-02-2012, 07:04 AM
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This article shows how important Alfie is in mentoring the Sens young players.

Though its mostly Turris talking about Alfie there is some interesting reading about Turris training in Ottawa this summer.

http://www.ottawasun.com/2012/08/01/...turris-prayers

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08-02-2012, 12:29 PM
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I'm in.
A picture of alfie's back says it all. (alfie is back!). Good job

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This article shows how important Alfie is in mentoring the Sens young players.

Though its mostly Turris talking about Alfie there is some interesting reading about Turris training in Ottawa this summer.

http://www.ottawasun.com/2012/08/01/...turris-prayers
Just goes to show you how good of a leader and captain Alfie really is. A young NHL player wanting to learn and improve from one of the best captains.

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08-03-2012, 12:13 AM
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08-03-2012, 03:24 PM
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Great news for the team. I don't want to see Alfie call it quits anytime soon.

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08-03-2012, 05:11 PM
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anyone else see this? I wish we could do a poll of Alfie vs Sundin where no Sens fans or Leafs fans could vote. See what the league thinks of all those Leafs fans calling Alfie Krusty!

Cup Final vs No Cup Final
Clutch player vs a guy who couldnt get his team to 8th place since the lockout
Loyalty vs Money Chaser
Heart and Soul vs Needing heart and sould players
Why does Sundin need to be brought in to this at all?

No cup = no cup.

Sundin was also "loyal" as he refused to be dealt at the deadline because he wanted to finish what he started.

The similarities between the two players far outweigh the differences, and you could also easily argue that Sundin was in fact more skilled than Alfredsson.

He also played under far more pressure and scrutiny than Alfie ever has.

Forget about the Leafs. I freaking hate how everything that should be pro Ottawa turns into anti Toronto.

**** Toronto.


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08-03-2012, 05:39 PM
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Why does Sundin need to be brought in to this at all?

No cup = no cup.

Sundin was also "loyal" as he refused to be dealt at the deadline because he wanted to finish what he started.

The similarities between the two players far outweigh the differences, and you could also easily argue that Sundin was in fact more skilled than Alfredsson.

He also played under far more pressure and scrutiny than Alfie ever has.

Forget about the Leafs. I freaking hate how everything that should be pro Ottawa turns into anti Toronto.

**** Toronto.
True Dat!

In addition, only one of these players is still playing, lets just enjoy Alfie while we have him on the ice, we can do all this crap comparison stuff when his career ends (could be a few more years if we're lucky!).

I love that Alfie will stay in Ottawa though, and most likely join the team in some capacity. It really shows the bond that has developed between hockey star, city, and franchise.... A sporting threesome, and I LOVE threesomes...


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08-03-2012, 05:57 PM
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Comparing the two is an exercise in futility anyway.

Sundin played in the early 90's when guys were putting up 130+ point seasons. Alfie is a few years younger and didn't begin his NHL career until age 23 in a lower scoring era and on a way worse team.

He looked pretty damn good last season. He looks like he has lots left in the tank. Hopefully he has enough to get him through a few more seasons. Selanne, Recchi, Whitney, etc... have all shown in recent years that you can play into your 40's if you take card of yourself and have a little luck on your side.

The only thing is, when you're that age, you can lose it fast.


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08-03-2012, 06:03 PM
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Does this get us to the cap floor?

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08-03-2012, 06:05 PM
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Comparing the two is an exercise in futility anyway.

Sundin played in the early 90's when guys were putting up 130+ point seasons. Alfie is a few years younger and didn't begin his NHL career until age 23 in a lower scoring era and on a way worse team.

He looked pretty damn good last season.
He looks like he has lots left in the tank. Hopefully he has enough to get him through a few more seasons. Selanne, Recchi, Whitney, etc... have all shown in recent years that you can play into your 40's if you take card of yourself an have a little luck on your side.

The only thing is, when your that age, you can lose it fast.
I disagree. He's worth bringing back and playing but he seems to have lost some of the abilities he once had.

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08-03-2012, 06:48 PM
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I don't see how anyone could be disappointed with Alfredsson's last season.

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08-03-2012, 06:58 PM
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I disagree. He's worth bringing back and playing but he seems to have lost some of the abilities he once had.
I don't think anyone would disgree that he's declined from where he was, but even with that decline, he's still a great 2nd liner.

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08-03-2012, 07:09 PM
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65 point pace, that's more or less 1st line production.

Nobody is putting up 100 point seasons anymore.

I'd like to see him off the PK, but only to save his gas, and avoid blocking 90 mph slap shots.

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08-03-2012, 08:48 PM
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Sundin was also "loyal" as he refused to be dealt at the deadline because he wanted to finish what he started.
You actually believe that narrative?

Hilarious. The guy didn't want to uproot in the middle of the season. Simple as that. He turned and ran for $$$ the next off-season (well actually, he took the first bit off and joined the Canucks half-way through).

So much for wanting to see something all the way through.

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08-03-2012, 08:58 PM
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No I didnt really buy it, but who is to say that the Leafs wanted him back anyway?

I think it's possible that the management informed him that he would not be in their future plans.

If it can happen to Favre, it can certainly happen to Sundin.

As for losing it fast, he's a pretty good example of that too.

There is no loyalty in sports anyway. Alfie would have accepted a trade under the right circumstances.

I just don't think that Alfie is a better player / captain than Sundin was.

Anyway I don't want to derail this any further.

I'm glad he is coming back, and if he has a season like last one's, that is success.

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08-04-2012, 08:27 AM
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There is no loyalty in sports anyway. Alfie would have accepted a trade under the right circumstances.
Exactly. Alfie would have because it would have improved the team. Sundin said no...and wouldn't waive his NTC.

I too feel the Sundin vs. Alfie comparison to be a waste of time, I was just making the point that the 4-0 record in the Sens/Leafs series has more to do with Roberts and Nieuwendyk than the Alfie/Sundin debate.

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08-04-2012, 09:23 AM
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Lalime not being able to save a beach ball didn't help either.

Or Alyn Macauley going into hero mode.

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I just don't think that Alfie is a better player / captain than Sundin was.
Sundin was more consistent because he stayed healthier, but Alfredsson peaked higher... a fact largely obscured by Alfredsson's injuries and declines in league scoring.

Career Best PPG Ranks:

Alfredsson3rd4th9th14th15th15th16th23rd25th29th
M. Sundin10th12th13th13th17th18th19th21st23rd24th

The Trophy voters noticed though:

YrCalderHartSelkeByngMS-PPGrDA-PPGrCalderHartSelkeByng
916         
92          
93    13     
94          
95          
96      437   
97 3  10     
98          
99 1  13     
00    2014    
01         11
02 35  12     
03 1   15  723
04 55 6199 22 316
06    173 119143190
07     15 513927
08  114184 39298
09        6113
10     16  38134
Total6951310  437149425912

Which is amazing because throughout that prime that Sundin never had from '04-'10, Alfie is also receiving numerous Selke votes on top of his scoring exploits.

Player Hart Selke Lady Byng CalderTotal
Alfredsson1494259124371923
Sundin9513106124


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I just don't think that Alfie is a better player / captain than Sundin was.
Alfredsson has to be held down by a team of doctors and sedated to keep him out of playoff games after he's told that he needs surgery (required knee surgery & concussion). Alfredsson missed 5 of Ottawa's 116 playoff games after being relatively injury prone during the regular season.

Sundin missed 18 of his team's last 52 playoff games (groin pull, "leg injury" & broken wrist). After playing virtually all of his teams' regular season games.

Those look like injuries that Alfredsson would have tried to play through.

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08-09-2012, 07:55 PM
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Great to see him back. Dude can play as long as he wants IMO.

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