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Who do you think is the most improved team as of Aug 2, 2012

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08-02-2012, 06:10 PM
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1) Minnesota
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08-02-2012, 06:18 PM
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Minnesota
Carolina
Dallas
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08-02-2012, 06:30 PM
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Carolina, Minnesota, Edmonton, NY Rangers

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08-02-2012, 06:36 PM
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So at this time last year, weren't people saying Buffalo?

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08-02-2012, 06:40 PM
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So at this time last year, weren't people saying Buffalo?
I think Buffalo will do better this year.

A lot better.

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08-02-2012, 06:42 PM
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So at this time last year, weren't people saying Buffalo?
I know I was.
The most improved team is usually seen as the team who makes the biggest moves. Sometimes it's the quiet teams though who end up with the biggest improvement.

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08-02-2012, 06:46 PM
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I think Buffalo will do better this year.

A lot better.

I agree. My point though was that a lot of people pegged them to be vastly improved last year based on offseason moves and it didn't work out that way. It will be interesting to see if teams like Minnesota and Carolina end up meeting the offseason expectations.

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08-02-2012, 06:47 PM
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They also acquired Derek Roy from Buffalo
Ehhhh im not sure that is a upgrade. Im also bitter about him.

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08-02-2012, 06:54 PM
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Minnesota
Carolina
Dallas

Not Tampa not Rangers not Oilers

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08-02-2012, 06:56 PM
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It comes down to, best improvement on paper (like all those teams that give big contracts in FA that provide the ability for players to coast in security), and best improvement with chips on shoulders.

Suter and Parise chose Minnie because its good for family. Family will be 1st, 2nd 3rd and 4th on their priorities... they also wont have to play for a contract ever again.

On the other hand Carolina aquired Jordan Staal to team with his brother.

On paper - Minnie but i honestly doubt they will get a cup in those years. They rebuilt 1/4 of their team. enough said. Minnie has never been exciting and i dont expect any difference in that coming.
In reality - Carolina

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08-02-2012, 06:59 PM
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just reaching the playoffs will be a huge improvement for the Wild, where a team like the Rangers is going to have a tougher time improving off their previous year.

pretty stoked as a Wild fan, but I'm not beating my chest yet--we're used to everything blowing up/falling apart from years of suffering through seasons of all four pro teams.

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08-02-2012, 07:03 PM
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I was wondering what your thoughts on which team made the most improvement on paper.

I know a lot of teams are going to go with Minnesota but I think they still have some problems. Yes, Suter and Praise are very good players but the question mark is will they fit well in Minnesota style of play and does Minnesota have the right players be competitive.
Your question is which team improved the most so far on paper - I don't know why you'd argue with Minnesota. Clearly, they added the 2 best players of all moved players thus far and they didn't lose anyone of importance from their roster.

If you had asked who is the strongest team on paper right now, obviously the Wild wouldn't qualify because they still have other areas in need for help.

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08-02-2012, 07:08 PM
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Minnesota
New York Rangers
Carolina

Minnesota added Parise and Suter with good prospects ready for the NHL.

New York Rangers added Nash without giving any real significant pieces. And added good role players. Taylor Pyatt is a good 3rd line LW, and signing Asham and Halpern could give them an effective 4th line.

Carolina with the additions of Jordan Staal and Alex Semin.

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08-02-2012, 07:26 PM
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So at this time last year, weren't people saying Buffalo?
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I think Buffalo will do better this year.

A lot better.
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I know I was.
The most improved team is usually seen as the team who makes the biggest moves. Sometimes it's the quiet teams though who end up with the biggest improvement.
Or teams that just get healthier with fewer injuries than the season before.

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08-02-2012, 07:42 PM
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The Sharks deserve to be mentioned. They strengthened their D with the signing of Stuart, helped their PK with Burish, and increased their depth with AHL signings. But, they also gained 2 very capable assistants in Larry Robinson and Jim Johnson.

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08-02-2012, 07:43 PM
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Added a goalie, two to 4 defencemen to upgrade their inferior defence and goaltending. Seems rather obvious.

My under-the-radar picks

Buffalo: Biggest thing for Buffalo is they became a lot tougher to play against by adding Steve Ott and John Scott. Along with guys like Corey Tropp, Marcus Foligno and Brayden McNabb, all of whom should be regulars this season, Buffalo went from being a small, skilled but exceedingly soft team, to a team with skill and a number of guys who will play physical on/over the edge hockey and a nuclear deterrent like Scott to discourage guys from going after the physical players. They're one of the few teams who looked at a very real deficiency all season last year and made a concerted effort to address it.

Columbus: Seriously, though, I think Columbus is going to be more like Edmonton from this past year, then the Columbus we saw last season: a team that likely still will finish near the bottom of the league, but a team that will at least battle for and be in every game they lose. They replace a guy who doesn't want to be there (Nash) and a guy who wasn't there (the oft-injured Kristian Huselius) and a few that shouldn't have been there (various fill-ins and AHLers) with guys who will compete and compete hard for that team up front: Brandon Dubinsky, Artem Anisimov, and Nick Foligno. They have a solid blueline already, and adding Ryan Murray, Adrian Aucoin and Tim Erixon, makes it even stronger. And they sought to address problems in goal with Sergei Bobrovsky who had a rough 11-12, but is only one year removed from a 28 win .915 PCT and 4 shut-out rookie season. At best, he'll step in and be the #1 goalie they need, at worst he'll push Steve Mason to regain his form. I don't know that, standings-wise, Columbus will be much better this year, but at least they will make some headway, I think.
While I agree Ott will help the Sabres, John Scott is freakin' terrible.

Ya he can fight, but his defensive play is a gong-show, ask Hawks fans.

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08-02-2012, 07:48 PM
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The Wild- They got Zenon Konopka as a FA!!!!!

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08-02-2012, 07:51 PM
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I think the Nash trade will make NYR a real handful. They had a good team D and goaltending last year. That all should be as good if not better.

Now mix in BR being much more comfortable and now they get Nash to slot in and not have to be the only guy.. Eeesh if they gel right they could be very scary.


I also feel Carolina made the best moves but that is alot of turnover might take a couple months for them to figure it all out.

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08-02-2012, 08:47 PM
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I also feel Carolina made the best moves but that is alot of turnover might take a couple months for them to figure it all out.
While I agree it make take time for them to figure out lines, it really is not much turn-over. Basically it's a change of 2 players. Jordan Staal for Brandon Sutter and the addition of Alex Semin. Granted, they are key pieces, but pretty much the other 18 guys are the same as last year. (ok, Corvo isn't but he's not new to Carolina). With the addition of Nash and the loss of Dubinsky and Anisimov and Prust, the Rangers actually have more turn-over than Carolina does.

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08-02-2012, 09:12 PM
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They also acquired Derek Roy from Buffalo for Ott and Pardy.

With free agency included, I would say that losing Ribeiro, Ott and Pardy in exchange for Whitney, Roy, Jagr, Eakin and a second round pick must be seen as quite a huge improvement.
yeah I don't see adding two 40+ year old players as a improvement.

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Besides the Rangers adding Nash, Pyatt, Asham, etc, no one has mentioned that technically they're "adding" Kreider as well. Which to me seems just as important as adding Nash in some ways. Obviously theres always that chance he hits a rookie wall, but if he has anywhere near the season he is projected to have and Torts can find line combos that he'll keep for more than a 3-4 game stretch, it'll make the Rangers that much more balanced and deep.

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While I agree Ott will help the Sabres, John Scott is freakin' terrible.

Ya he can fight, but his defensive play is a gong-show, ask Hawks fans.
Buffalo didn't sign him to score or defend or actually play hockey.
Jeez, people whine about this signing like we we expect him to play 20 minutes a game. They signed him to fight and be intimidating, which he'll do. He won't be liability playing 4 minutes a game for 35 games.

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Semin-Staal-Staal vs. Parise-Koivu-Heatly

Both teams look scary.

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1. New York Rangers
2. Carolina Hurricanes
3. Minnesota Wild

New York Rangers win because they have a very good shot at winning the cup this year, while Minnesota and Carolina will still both struggle for lower seeds in the playoffs. I dont see Minnesota having the depth needed to make it far, especially on defense. Carolina could be a surprise contender like L.A last year.

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