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07-03-2012, 07:11 PM
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Press conference for signings?

Does anyone know when or if the flames will be having a press conference to officially welcome jiri hudler, Dennis wideman and maybe cervenka?

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07-03-2012, 07:51 PM
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Does anyone know when or if the flames will be having a press conference to officially welcome jiri hudler, Dennis wideman and maybe cervenka?
Nevermind those bums, I want to see Ben Street!

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I'm not surprised to see Ben Street get a 2-way contract. Streets tend to go both ways.

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The Flames have been awfully quiet lately. I would think if Feaster was done that he would hold a press conference to talk about next season with the additions of Cervenka, Hudler, and Wideman, while letting go Moss and Jokinen. How this all was a product of what the organization examined as solutions of specific problems. He would likely talk about the next move, being prospect camps and tourney. All the usual stuff that comes with the summer presser.

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Did anyone see the Cervenka presser? It seems that Feaster is expecting Cervenka to be the centremen on the top line. It will be difficult to generate chemistry without speaking English, therefore Tangs, Cervenka, and Iggy will have to depend on the force.

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Did anyone see the Cervenka presser? It seems that Feaster is expecting Cervenka to be the centremen on the top line. It will be difficult to generate chemistry without speaking English, therefore Tangs, Cervenka, and Iggy will have to depend on the force.
I got the felling that he believes he is a top 6 center and will play with Hudler but that is what I got from it.

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That's probably the only time I've seen someone post a video response on these boards that worked with the quoted post and actually ended up funny. .

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Feaster is not the coach, and to be frank he is not a hockey guy. For all we know, Hartley may want to use Cervenka as a winger. That's great if he signed him based on the expectation that he has the potential to fill that role. But even our GM has no idea if he is going to center our top line.

I'd be ecstatic if it worked out that way, but let's see this guy play an NHL game before we label him anything big Jay.

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Feaster is not the coach, and to be frank he is not a hockey guy. For all we know, Hartley may want to use Cervenka as a winger. That's great if he signed him based on the expectation that he has the potential to fill that role. But even our GM has no idea if he is going to center our top line.

I'd be ecstatic if it worked out that way, but let's see this guy play an NHL game before we label him anything big Jay.
Jay was probably giving him a sales pitch. You know, "we need a number one centre, so don't sign in Pittsburgh where you'll be taking faceoffs from the fourth line".

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Feaster is not the coach, and to be frank he is not a hockey guy. For all we know, Hartley may want to use Cervenka as a winger. That's great if he signed him based on the expectation that he has the potential to fill that role. But even our GM has no idea if he is going to center our top line.

I'd be ecstatic if it worked out that way, but let's see this guy play an NHL game before we label him anything big Jay.
I have a feeling that what ever Feaster says to the public about hockey is what Weisbrod tells him like the Janko comment was actually Weisbrod's comment.

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I didn't see the whole the presser, so I'm probably over reacting a little lol.

Its just we all know what a talker and salesman Feaster is, and really he is no position to be guaranteeing anything Cervenka related at this point.

This is the same guy that said if Richards would of signed here, that Richards, Iggy and Tangs would of all been 100pt players.

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I didn't see the whole the presser, so I'm probably over reacting a little lol.

Its just we all know what a talker and salesman Feaster is, and really he is no position to be guaranteeing anything Cervenka related at this point.

This is the same guy that said if Richards would of signed here, that Richards, Iggy and Tangs would of all been 100pt players.
There is no way to know how they would have done but he was clearly trying to sell the idea of them. He never guaranteed Cervenka a spot but he said repeatedly that his scouts said that he should be a top 6 player.

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I agree to, he should be a top 6 guy without question if his game transfers over to the NHL. And from all reports of him and his work ethic, I hopefully optimistic they are right!

Regarding Richards, true there is no way of knowing. But each year there is what, 1 maybe 3 guys tops that crack 100pts. Iginla has never hit that mark, he would pretty much have to have a perfect season to do it and have instant chemistry with Richards. While I completely agree he was trying to sell it, to me that's just Jay being Jay.

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Feaster is not the coach, and to be frank he is not a hockey guy. For all we know, Hartley may want to use Cervenka as a winger. That's great if he signed him based on the expectation that he has the potential to fill that role. But even our GM has no idea if he is going to center our top line.

I'd be ecstatic if it worked out that way, but let's see this guy play an NHL game before we label him anything big Jay.
This is just wrong. I understand he might not be one of the best in the business, but the man knows hockey.
What really qualifies you to "be a hockey guy?"

Yes, he didn't play competitive hockey, or coach a team... but the man worked for years in Hershey, was the GM of a Stanley Cup Championship team, and is now the GM of the Calgary Flames. He is surrounded by "great" hockey minds, and is studying the game.

Feaster knows his stuff, and is a very intelligent man. You don't have to play the game to understand it. (yes it helps, but its the be all, end all.)

Anyways, sorry for the rant... I just hear that from so many people, and think it's just a silly statement .

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This is just wrong. I understand he might not be one of the best in the business, but the man knows hockey.
What really qualifies you to "be a hockey guy?"

Yes, he didn't play competitive hockey, or coach a team... but the man worked for years in Hershey, was the GM of a Stanley Cup Championship team, and is now the GM of the Calgary Flames. He is surrounded by "great" hockey minds, and is studying the game.

Feaster knows his stuff, and is a very intelligent man. You don't have to play the game to understand it. (yes it helps, but its the be all, end all.)

Anyways, sorry for the rant... I just hear that from so many people, and think it's just a silly statement .
100% agreed. If he wasn't a 'hockey' guy, he wouldn't be a GM. I mean for ****s sake, he got Tampa Bay a cup and basically turned that team around.

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So what If Cervenka does well do we sign him again? And for how much? Isn't he getting a little over 3 mil? or is that only with bonuses? 2.85mil I think thats what he is getting.

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So what If Cervenka does well do we sign him again? And for how much? Isn't he getting a little over 3 mil? or is that only with bonuses? 2.85mil I think thats what he is getting.
That's with all bonuses. He actually has a one year ELC with mega bonuses.

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This is just wrong. I understand he might not be one of the best in the business, but the man knows hockey.
What really qualifies you to "be a hockey guy?"

Yes, he didn't play competitive hockey, or coach a team... but the man worked for years in Hershey, was the GM of a Stanley Cup Championship team, and is now the GM of the Calgary Flames. He is surrounded by "great" hockey minds, and is studying the game.

Feaster knows his stuff, and is a very intelligent man. You don't have to play the game to understand it. (yes it helps, but its the be all, end all.)

Anyways, sorry for the rant... I just hear that from so many people, and think it's just a silly statement .
I won't dispute this post, you make good points. However, Feaster has admittedly said that he is not a hockey guy (sorry I don't have a link). And IMO there's nothing wrong with that. Feaster is a student of the game as you say, and he has surrounded himself with hockey people.

I am a General Manager of a Wholesale store and I majored in business. Both of the owners where I work have the same background in business, and neither of us have specialized in the trade of the industry we are in. We have hired people in the industry that are experts and rely on them heavily and learned lots from them about their trade. We focus on running the business side of things and everything works extremely well. This is kind of how I see the Flames being run.

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I won't dispute this post, you make good points. However, Feaster has admittedly said that he is not a hockey guy (sorry I don't have a link). And IMO there's nothing wrong with that. Feaster is a student of the game as you say, and he has surrounded himself with hockey people.

I am a General Manager of a Wholesale store and I majored in business. Both of the owners where I work have the same background in business, and neither of us have specialized in the trade of the industry we are in. We have hired people in the industry that are experts and rely on them heavily and learned lots from them about their trade. We focus on running the business side of things and everything works extremely well. This is kind of how I see the Flames being run.
I believe this is a pretty accurate analysis of the situation.

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I won't dispute this post, you make good points. However, Feaster has admittedly said that he is not a hockey guy (sorry I don't have a link). And IMO there's nothing wrong with that. Feaster is a student of the game as you say, and he has surrounded himself with hockey people.

I am a General Manager of a Wholesale store and I majored in business. Both of the owners where I work have the same background in business, and neither of us have specialized in the trade of the industry we are in. We have hired people in the industry that are experts and rely on them heavily and learned lots from them about their trade. We focus on running the business side of things and everything works extremely well. This is kind of how I see the Flames being run.
great response. I guess I`m use to so many fans attacking the guy, I felt the need to take a stand... In this case, it was not warranted. I made my own assumption (which was wrong.)

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So what If Cervenka does well do we sign him again? And for how much? Isn't he getting a little over 3 mil? or is that only with bonuses? 2.85mil I think thats what he is getting.
His base salary is only around 1M, the rest is bonuses. And if he plays well and has a decent season, I wouldn't be against re-signing him.

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His base salary is only around 1M, the rest is bonuses. And if he plays well and has a decent season, I wouldn't be against re-signing him.
So if he plays like ****, he doesn't get those bonuses? Or were those signing bonuses?

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So if he plays like ****, he doesn't get those bonuses? Or were those signing bonuses?
I believe its a max ELC contract, so I think the bonuses are games played, points, trophies etc.

IIRC his signing bonus was $92,500, performance bonus of $2,850,000 and a salary of $925,000.

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