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2012 Minnesota #8 Prospect

View Poll Results: Who is the 8th-best Minnesota Wild Prospect?
Brett Bulmer 62 57.41%
Raphael Bussieres 1 0.93%
Tyler Cuma 0 0%
John Draeger 0 0%
Adam Gilmour 0 0%
Tyler Graovac 0 0%
Daniel Gunnarsson 0 0%
Johan Gustafsson 0 0%
Erik Haula 0 0%
Steven Kampfer 0 0%
Darcy Kuemper 0 0%
Mario Lucia 1 0.93%
Zack Phillips 44 40.74%
Nick Seeler 0 0%
Other (please explain) 0 0%
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08-02-2012, 03:31 PM
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Neither were dominant in juniors offensively. Bulmer's had a little better points but the same or fewer goals. Gillies played at least in a couple international tournaments whereas Bulmer has zero international nods.

If Bulmer hadn't been kept up for 9 games last year I don't think he'd be rated anywhere near as high as he has been.

I do think Bulmer's got a little better hands than Gillies, possibly a little better scoring instincts...but I honestly don't see him as much more than Clutterbuck at the NHL level.
What about hockey IQ and physicality? honest question - i haven't really seen bulmer play outside his 9 game stint last year.

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08-02-2012, 04:23 PM
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Gillies was pretty dang physical, a lot of folks saw him dominate in the prospect scrimmage.

I'm guessing Bulmer's got the better hockey IQ. Usually the more assists the higher the IQ. They played in the same league so you can draw that conclusion.

I think Bulmer's going to be a little better than Gillies but still probably not much more than a 3rd/4th liner.

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08-02-2012, 04:40 PM
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Gillies was pretty dang physical, a lot of folks saw him dominate in the prospect scrimmage.

I'm guessing Bulmer's got the better hockey IQ. Usually the more assists the higher the IQ. They played in the same league so you can draw that conclusion.

I think Bulmer's going to be a little better than Gillies but still probably not much more than a 3rd/4th liner.


thats pretty much what i think. I voted for Phillips because i think he has much greater potential.

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08-02-2012, 04:50 PM
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I have to go with ZP in this one. His offensive upside is to hard for me to ignore. If he can manage to overcome his skating he will be a good top 6 player. That is why i pick him over a player like bulmer. I think Bulmer is a safer bet, but i don't seem him making an impact like Phillips can.

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08-02-2012, 05:14 PM
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phillips is my boy! (no homo). from what ive seen of him play during the memorial cup and at the camps is that he has good playmaking and he can finish too if he gets the puck anywhere in front of the net, even from the side i guess. he scored a great goal from a super tight angle in the memorial cup against edm. i think he will be my future favorite on the wild, even if he isnt the best skill wise

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08-02-2012, 06:00 PM
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When I think Joe Pavelski, I think speed.
Are you serious?

He's an extremely average skater, with above average hockey IQ.

He's got that "in the right place in the right time" thing going for him. He's not fast, he's not agile, but he is strong on his skates, and doesn't get slowed down easily.

You are the first person I've ever encountered who equated Pavelski and speed.

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08-02-2012, 06:09 PM
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Are you serious?

He's an extremely average skater, with above average hockey IQ.

He's got that "in the right place in the right time" thing going for him. He's not fast, he's not agile, but he is strong on his skates, and doesn't get slowed down easily.

You are the first person I've ever encountered who equated Pavelski and speed.
Looked up some YouTube highlights; you're right.

Maybe he's just always looked speedy next to Thornton and Heatley?

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08-02-2012, 06:16 PM
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Looked up some YouTube highlights; you're right.

Maybe he's just always looked speedy next to Thornton and Heatley?


He's one of those guys that just sneaks in after the initial rush, and makes people look silly.

I really get that vibe from Phillips (based solely upon scouting reports). Great hands, good hockey sense/hockey IQ, anywhere from sub-par to average skating, can setup AND score, but is slightly more weighted towards assists.....

Time will tell, I still just like Bulmer's likelihood of being an impact player for us a tad bit more. Phillips just has a few too many vocal critics for me to rank him above Bulmer.

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08-02-2012, 06:21 PM
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I don't like the Bulmer/Gillies comparison at all...Gillies was drafted as the ultra "safe" pick. Bulmer was a risk/project erratic pick. Size is similar, skill may be similar or not, but the biggest difference is in the attitude and confidence. they couldn't be more different mentally on the ice. thank god for Hockey Ops signing on Bomber as a player development coach to give guys like Bulmer focus.

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Wellllll I think we know who #9 is going to be. #10 should be interesting though.

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I missed poll #7 so never got to vote for hackett in his win... damn this being sick crap!

Voted for Bulmer.

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Bulmer is nothing like Gillies, Gillies was a late 2nd, 3rd rounder drafted in the first wayyyyyyyyyyyyy higher then he should've been, as a 3rd liner at best. Bulmer was drafted in the 2nd round with a lot of upside, and i voted for him because between him and Phillips i think the odds of Bulmer getting to and sticking in the NHL is a little better then Phillips. Bulmer is a far better version of Clutterbuck i think, with the potential at the very top end to possibly be a top 6 forward, and i like the way he plays a lot, so Bulmer's got my vote.

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08-02-2012, 09:27 PM
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I don't like the Bulmer/Gillies comparison at all...Gillies was drafted as the ultra "safe" pick. Bulmer was a risk/project erratic pick. Size is similar, skill may be similar or not, but the biggest difference is in the attitude and confidence. they couldn't be more different mentally on the ice. thank god for Hockey Ops signing on Bomber as a player development coach to give guys like Bulmer focus.
Just noticed that!
Here I thought I was the only one trying to give praise to the job Bomber has done!

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--Philllips /Bulmer 8/9/10, recognize Im CDN but cmon, really..a guy that has already played 9 nhl games and looked great with tremendous size and grit and another that won an MVP-coaches award- on arguably the best Major Junior Team in Canada(Huberdeau, Galiev, Bealieau and Coyle)and has big game proven ability ?
Guess we are really deep..??

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its a little awesome that this is for the #8 spot on our prospect list.

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--Philllips /Bulmer 8/9/10, recognize Im CDN but cmon, really..a guy that has already played 9 nhl games and looked great with tremendous size and grit and another that won an MVP-coaches award- on arguably the best Major Junior Team in Canada(Huberdeau, Galiev, Bealieau and Coyle)and has big game proven ability ?
Guess we are really deep..??
This is no longer a Doug Risebrough prospect pool!

#8 spot is not a throw away spot anymore... with some maybe you hope he can be a player someday type of guy.

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I almost forgot to vote.

Phillips is next.

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Anyone else read the interview where Gerard Gallant said the worst case scenario for Phillips is a second line player..

Maybe we really are this deep and Phillips belongs in the bottom of top10, im not an expert so dont shoot me.

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Anyone else read the interview where Gerard Gallant said the worst case scenario for Phillips is a second line player..

Maybe we really are this deep and Phillips belongs in the bottom of top10, im not an expert so dont shoot me.
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Phillips. I have a feeling he and Lucia are going to be special players for the Wild one day.

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I'm pretty excited about Lucia, to see how he develops. Still think he's a bit of a project but he could be something.

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Bulmer is nothing like Gillies, Gillies was a late 2nd, 3rd rounder drafted in the first wayyyyyyyyyyyyy higher then he should've been, as a 3rd liner at best. Bulmer was drafted in the 2nd round with a lot of upside, and i voted for him because between him and Phillips i think the odds of Bulmer getting to and sticking in the NHL is a little better then Phillips. Bulmer is a far better version of Clutterbuck i think, with the potential at the very top end to possibly be a top 6 forward, and i like the way he plays a lot, so Bulmer's got my vote.
I liked Gillies, but we really did screw his development up badly, whether he was going to pan out or not is irrelevant.

We let a raw prospect rot away warming the bench or playing 4th line minutes. Then, he just slowly wasted away...

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Featuring St. John Forward Zack Phillips
http://www.truehockey.com/articles/F...-Zack-Phillips

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Featuring St. John Forward Zack Phillips
http://www.truehockey.com/articles/F...-Zack-Phillips
Lovely that they'd spell Saint John wrong (at least they only made one of the two mistakes though).

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http://www.truehockey.com/articles/F...-Zack-Phillips
Interesting.

Hopefully Phillips lives up to the prediction.

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