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Forwards: We get 13 forwards, yes? I am not convinced Stastny will make this team, and if he doesn't, then we haven't done a very good job developing our young forwards. Cole will probably looked at as too old and Pominville looked at as an outsider because he's Canadian. I would love to see JVR develop into a player that makes our squad. Fingers crossed. I'd hate to go up against a line of Brown-Callahan-Backes. You'll get physically manhandled and then get your shot blocked.
Defense: We get a seventh defenseman too. Right now I'd take Carlson, Fowler, or Shattenkirk over Erik Johsnon. Man will our defense look good in 2014, and especially in 2018! And you didn't even mention Justin Faulk!
Glaotending: Miller is a no-brainer, on his best day he is still the world's best goalie and was the MVP of the last tournament. Any issues he's had lately have probably been the result of burnout from being overworked and being on a perpetually losing team, or the lingering effects of that concussion. It should be Howard that shares the backslash with Schnieder, assuming Thomas doesn't get picked over both of them.
I don't understand why everyone is still swinging from Erik Johnson's nuts. He's an average NHL defensemen and doesn't seem to be getting any better. I'm not even sure he's in our top 7 right now let alone in two years with guys like Carlson, Faulk, Fowler, and Shattenkirk developing so rapidly.
Just because a guy was a former #1 overall pick does not mean he should be an automatic inclusion. You don't see Canada considering bringing Alexandre Daigle to Sochi, do you?
Forwards: We get 13 forwards, yes? I am not convinced Stastny will make this team, and if he doesn't, then we haven't done a very good job developing our young forwards. Cole will probably looked at as too old and Pominville looked at as an outsider because he's Canadian. I would love to see JVR develop into a player that makes our squad. Fingers crossed. I'd hate to go up against a line of Brown-Callahan-Backes. You'll get physically manhandled and then get your shot blocked.
Defense: We get a seventh defenseman too. Right now I'd take Carlson, Fowler, or Shattenkirk over Erik Johsnon. Man will our defense look good in 2014, and especially in 2018! And you didn't even mention Justin Faulk!
Glaotending: Miller is a no-brainer, on his best day he is still the world's best goalie and was the MVP of the last tournament. Any issues he's had lately have probably been the result of burnout from being overworked and being on a perpetually losing team, or the lingering effects of that concussion. It should be Howard that shares the backslash with Schnieder, assuming Thomas doesn't get picked over both of them.
Pominville is an American in the IIHF's eyes and can only represent Team USA.
__________________ "I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough." - Mark Twain.
Zach Parise (A) - Ryan Kesler - Patrick Kane
Bobby Ryan - Paul Stastny - Phil Kessel
Max Pacioretty - David Backes - Ryan Callahan (C)
Dustin Brown (A) - Joe Pavelski - T.J. Oshie
x: James Van Riemsdyk
Ryan Suter - John Carlson
Keith Yandle - Cam Fowler
Jack Johnson - Ryan McDonagh
x: Erik Johnson
Jonathan Quick
Ryan Miller
Corey Schneider
Just from looking at this team, Team USA will have the scariest bottom six out of any other team competing.
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Zach Parise (A) - Ryan Kesler - Patrick Kane
Bobby Ryan - Paul Stastny - Phil Kessel
Max Pacioretty - David Backes - Ryan Callahan (C)
Dustin Brown (A) - Joe Pavelski - T.J. Oshie
x: James Van Riemsdyk
Ryan Suter - John Carlson Keith Yandle - Cam Fowler
Jack Johnson - Ryan McDonagh
x: Erik Johnson
Jonathan Quick
Ryan Miller
Corey Schneider
Just from looking at this team, Team USA will have the scariest bottom six out of any other team competing.
That pairing would need some serious sheltering. Or Fowler needs to improve he's D a lot
Bobby Ryan - Joe Pavelski - Patrick Kane
Zach Parise - Ryan Kesler - Jason Pominville
Max Pacioretty - Derek Stepan - Phil Kessel
Dustin Brown - David Backes - Ryan Callahan
TJ Oshie
Ryan Suter - John Carlson
Keith Yandle - Erik Johnson
Ryan McDonagh - Jack Johnson
Zach Bogosian
That pairing would need some serious sheltering. Or Fowler needs to improve he's D a lot
If it wasn't a problem when he was paired up with JJ, then it shouldn't be a problem with Yandle. He still needs work to make the Olympic team, but he didn't have any struggles on defense with the WC team. People need to stop judging his defense from looking at his +/-. He made dramatic improvements on defense this year over last.
Your F looks great. Just a few notes from Jets fan perspective:
Buff: I could totally seeing you guys doing a Mike Green 2010 Team Canada on him. If you do want a big blast for the PP, take him for sure. He could excel at times, but he would be a wild card that is too unpredictable considering the amazing depth USA has now. Since there are extra slots you may want to roster him in case you get a rash of injuries at either F or D.
Bogo: I absolutely realize you have depth at D. But he won't disappoint you and he is an every situation type of guy.
Wheeler: He was our best forward by a mile last year. Carried the team on his back after first 20 games. He had no goals until then. He wouldn't make your squad right now, but keep a close eye. I think the Pomineville choice is wise as of this moment though.
Of course, I hope none of them make your team, they stay home to rest up for a playoff run, and I can cheer against you with no reservations.
Your F looks great. Just a few notes from Jets fan perspective:
Buff: I could totally seeing you guys doing a Mike Green 2010 Team Canada on him. If you do want a big blast for the PP, take him for sure. He could excel at times, but he would be a wild card that is too unpredictable considering the amazing depth USA has now. Since there are extra slots you may want to roster him in case you get a rash of injuries at either F or D.
Bogo: I absolutely realize you have depth at D. But he won't disappoint you and he is an every situation type of guy.
Wheeler: He was our best forward by a mile last year. Carried the team on his back after first 20 games. He had no goals until then. He wouldn't make your squad right now, but keep a close eye. I think the Pomineville choice is wise as of this moment though.
Of course, I hope none of them make your team, they stay home to rest up for a playoff run, and I can cheer against you with no reservations.
cant see Pominville making this team over guys like JVR, Wheeler, and Pacioretty which I am seeing a lot of.
I personally dont think that Pominville has a snow ball's chance in hell to make this squad, but thats just me ofcourse.
Wheeler and JVR are the most intriguing players, as both play with size and speed. And though they are bigger kids, they arent heavy weights nor going to bowl players over most games..but what they will do is help us balance out our group of smaller forwards (Kane, Parise, Pavelski, etc) with wingers with size and skill and some grit..
With JVR going to the Leafs, he will have his chance to shine, as this could be this kid's big coming out party and a spot on this 2014 team.
Wheeler like you said carried the Jets the tail end of last year, he needs to be more consistent, but if he does anything like he did this season, he should make this team in 2014.
Pacioretty is going to be a stud for the US. He is an all around power forward with speed and skill....the kind of player that Badger Bob would drool over. This kid is being criminally left off of some posters rosters, and for the life of me I simply cant see how or why.
xtreme wild card: Chris Kreider. Yep! I went there. If this kid lives up to the hype, and plays anywhere near the level he played in the playoffs, your looking at another 6'3 225lb power winger with speed to kill and hands of gold...this is the blue chip kind of player we have been waiting for as (JVR, Wilson, Schroeder) havent reached that level yet..
Ryan Miller Jon Quick Cory Schneider ---now the Nucks #1 netminder
Defense
Jack Johnson --C Ryan Suter -- Keith Yandle Ryan McDonagh John Carlson Erik Johnson --I believe this is his year Brooks Orpik
Forwards
Zach Parise --A Bobby Ryan David Backes Paul Stastny James VanRiemsdyk ---expecting big things Patrick Kane Ryan Callahan --A Max Pacioretty Phil Kessel Ryan Kesler Blake Wheeler Joe Pavelski Dustin Brown --A
Taxi Squad
Dustin Byfuglien Justin Faulk Chris Kreider T.J Oshie
Lines
Parise - Kesler - Kessel Ryan - Stastny - Kane Pacioretty - Pavelski - VanRiemsdyk Brown - Backes - Callahan Wheeler
Suter - Yandle J. Johnson - McDonagh E. Johnson - Orpik Carlson
Miller Quick Schneider
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Ryan Miller Jon Quick Cory Scheider ---now the Nucks #1 netminder
Defense
Jack Johnson --C Ryan Suter -- Keith Yandle Ryan McDonagh John Carlson Erik Johnson --I believe this is his year Brooks Orpik
Forwards
Zach Parise --A Bobby Ryan David Backes Paul Stastny James VanRiemsdyk ---expecting big things Patrick Kane Ryan Callahan --A Max Pacioretty Phil Kessel Ryan Kesler Blake Wheeler Joe Pavelski Dustin Brown --A
Taxi Squad
Dustin Byfuglien Justin Faulk Chris Kreider T.J Oshie
Lines
Parise - Kesler - Kessel Ryan - Stastny - Kane Pacioretty - Pavelski - VanRiemsdyk Brown - Backes - Callahan Wheeler
Suter - Yandle J. Johnson - McDonagh E. Johnson - Orpik Carlson
Miller Quick Schneider
I'd switch Paciorretty and Parise, but that my opinion cause Paciorretty is a very offensive minded player while Parise is decent both ways.
I think the two players I'm most excited about right now are McDonagh and Pacioretty. They're both stars already but I don't think they've even started to realize their potential. Big fan of both their games.