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Meszaros: Achilles tendon surgery (Aug. 7); Nov. 13 update, post #260

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08-07-2012, 09:49 AM
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Wow this really sucks. Might not have a full season so if he's out for 6 or 7 months he shouldn't miss too much but still this off-season really blows.

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08-07-2012, 09:53 AM
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Well there goes all hope. Any predictions on what we do next?

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08-07-2012, 09:56 AM
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Well there goes all hope. Any predictions on what we do next?
Well they can go the free agency route with Rozsival or Clark. Rozsival might still be suffering from the concussion he received last year in the playoffs. Clark is older but is a shot blocking machine, not the greatest in zone defender.

Now we can go trade route. Jay Bouw is the first player to come to mind. Also Keith Yandle was supposedly available earlier in the summer. I actually think they go out and get someone no body thought they would.

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08-07-2012, 09:57 AM
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Well there goes all hope. Any predictions on what we do next?
Roszival. Or Colaiacovo


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How many players can you have on LTIR? Is there a limit?

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08-07-2012, 09:58 AM
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Well there goes all hope. Any predictions on what we do next?
I think we should send an O.S. out to Weber, something to the tune that NSH CANNOT match, front load the **** out of it....

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08-07-2012, 10:05 AM
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Hoping Carl colavaccio (sp?)
or Scott Hannan as a better 'anchor' option for the younger guys - way better option that Lolja.

A typical physical guy and plays big minutes. He is who I target as GM.

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08-07-2012, 10:06 AM
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This is frustrating news. Hope Bryz has his head on straight this year. He's not getting a lot of help from this defense.

Really hope Holmgren doesn't impulsively overpay for someone like Jay Bouwmeester or something.

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08-07-2012, 10:08 AM
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I think we should send an O.S. out to Weber, something to the tune that NSH CANNOT match, front load the **** out of it....
Let's trade forwards for more defensemen! (Or alternatively trade healthy defensemen for more forwards)

Maybe we're just trying to draft 1st overall next year.

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08-07-2012, 10:14 AM
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Now who are we going to put in trade proposals???

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08-07-2012, 10:15 AM
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Now who are we going to put in trade proposals???
JVR or Carle !!






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08-07-2012, 10:20 AM
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More cap space... sure he will be on LTIR.

Perhaps the Flyers should wait for a cap reduction during the contract negotiations and hope someone has to kick someone loose.

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08-07-2012, 10:21 AM
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Damn...I'd say they have to get another Dman now? Someone else is likely to go down during the season too then you have

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08-07-2012, 10:24 AM
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Our D went from Serviceable with a check engine light to disabled on the side of the road.....HELP!

Yeah...all that fad hate for Carle was always hubris. Wasn't a fan but always said that he was the type of player that would be missed when he was gone and now that is 100X the case....

Once again..I feel bad for Timonen....

Guess Nashville knew we were tryin to pawn off damaged goods....

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08-07-2012, 10:26 AM
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Now who are we going to put in trade proposals???
Our next 4 first round picks, Scott Laughton, Nick Cousins ... I don't think we can dispense with any of our remaining top-6 forwards and nobody will ask for Shelley/Rinaldo/Zolniercik.

Homer is dealing from a position of weakness right now.

I think Gus can pretty much make up for Mesz's even strength minutes but who can take his spot on the PP and be trusted to skate the puck out of our zone in the final minutes of a close game?

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How many players can you have on LTIR? Is there a limit?
I don't believe so since such players are exempt from the maximum 23-man roster.

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08-07-2012, 10:27 AM
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Hopefully Gus is ready to start logging some minutes. Really not interested in the slop that remains in FA/trust them to take much time away from Timonen. We have guys within our system that can plug in as #6's. Gus has shown some flashes of being a decent player, why not give him the chance? Unless someone is willing to accept some of the picks we didn't have to move from Weber, I'm not sure we have the assets (or at least are willing to move the assets) required to make a trade move. I wouldn't mind JBow (his cap hit aside) but I don't know that Calgary is going to bite on a package of something like a 1st +.

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08-07-2012, 10:31 AM
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This happend to Zajac last year. Aug. 19th. He was back by Dec. 4th but he was rushed. Played 8 games then sat out another 6 weeks. Wasnt fully back till March. But by playoff time he was in mid-season form.

If Meszaros doesnt get rushed, he should be back without any regression by New Years.

If it's a torn Achilles. If it's a ruptured Achilles, then he'll be gone till April. But it doesnt sound like it's a rupture.

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08-07-2012, 10:36 AM
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We better see a lot of March Bryz next season.

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08-07-2012, 10:37 AM
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Please don't sign Randy Jones or Steve Eminger.

Roszival or Colaiacovo I guess.

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08-07-2012, 10:38 AM
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****! this sucks

gotta feel for mez, poor guy cant get a break

as for our defense...all i can do at this point is channel my inner Sarge and say, "oh boy"

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08-07-2012, 10:43 AM
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Well there goes all hope. Any predictions on what we do next?
Well, if you've given up all hope, why would you care what happens next?

There are few decent players still out there as UFAs. Roszival, Colaiacovo, Campoli, Jurcina. Bring Kubina back? Gilroy? Randy Jones?

There is the possibility of a trade for Visnovsky, who is contesting his trade to the Isles, but that's likely going to cost a second rounder.

Bigger deals for Bouwmeester or Yandle were going to have to include Meszaros, so they might be out.

I'm sure they'll look around and try to find someone. There are teams with extra D who might spare one for the right offer, e.g. Phoenix, LA.

There is no need to panic, the sky is not falling, and all hope is not lost.

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08-07-2012, 10:43 AM
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Where we go from here? 4 Ideas i saw today:


Plan A: Easy, Sleazy, and awful Cheesey

Transactions: Sign Michael Rosivol to a 4 year 14 million dollar deal, Carlo Coliacovo 2 years 7 million dollars.

Defense:
Coburn Grossmann
Schenn Timonen
Rozsival Coliacovo

Pros: Nothing lost elsewhere on offense, prospects, or picks
Cons: Overpaying for mediocre free agents who have a serious flaw to their game, potential cap inflexibility to resign key players

Plan B: Good Trade, Lets go win

Flyers trade 2013 1st, 2nd, and 5th round picks along with eric wellwood for Jay Boumeester.

Pros: Flyers acquire a legitimate #1b/2a defenseman who will eat big minutes, flyers LTIR situation with mezsaros and pronger makes this cap hit irrelevant, flyers don’t overpay for a free-agent or old player.

Cons: Flyers sell some future, as well as a player with very high potential in wellwood. Flyers may have to overpay for boumeester because Calgary still has high demands.

Plan C: Selling the Past for the Present

Flyers trade Danny Briere to Buffalo Sabres for Andrej Sekera and Jordan Leopold.

Pros: Flyers have a balanced, strong, competitive defense from players 1-6, and free themselves from Briere’s contract.
Cons: Flyers lose veteran leadership, offensive production, and a playoff menace. Sabres could veto trade, as could Briere.

Plan D: Stealing Headlines and Players:
Flyers offersheet in this order:
1) PK Subban 8 years 50 million
2) Michael Del Zotto 6 years 35 million
3) Dimitri Kulikov 6 years 38 million

Pending offersheet success, Flyers then trade Matt Read, Wayne Simmonds, 3rd round pick for Bobby Ryan.



Lineup:
Voracek Giroux Ryan
Hartnell Schenn Briere
Fedotenko Couturier Wellwood
Rinaldo Talbot Cousins

Subban/Del Zotto/Kulikov Timonen
Coburn Grossmann
Schenn Gervais

Pros: Flyers enter the season with a powerful squad balanced on offense and defense, filling in holes, and rolling with a top offensive line, and a studly young defenseman.

Cons: Flyers lose depth on offense, and take huge risks on ryan and Offersheeting even working, all of which are major risks.

Thoughts?

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