Price's previous contract was signed on September 2nd, 2010. There was some similar hysteria on the board that offseason, it turned out to be business as usual. Sometimes it just takes a while.
edit: oops, missed Jakomyte's post. Old news!
Yeah lucky he's a goalie and we had traded the other one right? Subban should have signed already. I don't mind putting the pressure in the dead heat of the summer
Until we get more PK at the zoo vids ok? *message*.
Del Zotto had a very good bounce back season for NY in 2011-12: 77 games, 10 goals, 31 assists, +20
Subban had a slight "sophomore slump" last year: 81 games, 7 goals, 29 assists, +9
I think Del Zotto had a better overall season and is younger than PK so he does merit a (slightly) better contract imo.
When looking at goals and assists (and God help you, +/-... for that to be useful you need to back out empty-net goals, goals for while on the penalty kill, and goals against while on the powerplay) you have to put those numbers into context. Del Zotto played 2nd-pairing type opposition with more offensive zone-starts than defensive zone-starts while Subban played top-pairing opposition starting more shifts in the defensive zone than the offensive zone.
Taking a look at the possession/shot metrics despite Subban being played in tougher situations overall he was better in the metrics even before adjusting for the difference in the quality of the team. There's no way Del Zotto had a better season than Subban. 3 goals/2 points does not make up for the difference in the difficulty of minutes or the superior possession Subban put up.
Subban is already in Shea Weber territory, but no one knows it. Subban has an advantage -- he's four years younger than Weber. Oilers fans were willing to give Weber all of the money in the world, they should be willing to do so for Subban too. To give you an idea of how good he is, he's turned both Hal Gill and Josh Gorges into possession killers over the last two seasons.
He's already the most valuable and most important Hab and has been since he took over the #1D minutes (and thrived in them) back in 2011.
When looking at goals and assists (and God help you, +/-... for that to be useful you need to back out empty-net goals, goals for while on the penalty kill, and goals against while on the powerplay) you have to put those numbers into context. Del Zotto played 2nd-pairing type opposition with more offensive zone-starts than defensive zone-starts while Subban played top-pairing opposition starting more shifts in the defensive zone than the offensive zone.
Taking a look at the possession/shot metrics despite Subban being played in tougher situations overall he was better in the metrics even before adjusting for the difference in the quality of the team. There's no way Del Zotto had a better season than Subban. 3 goals/2 points does not make up for the difference in the difficulty of minutes or the superior possession Subban put up.
Copperandblue is probably one of the only legitimate hockey blogs. Most people don't know a power-play scheme from their ass but these guys are good.
Totally kinda related: who'd like to be a part of a weekly podcast discussing the Habs? PM me if you're interested, PM overlords your nude picture if you're not.
Great post, and thanks for the link. A few good comments in there as well, I see. I really should visit this site more often.
I'm reading those comments too, they speak very highly of Subban. Kinda flattering compared to the crap you read on here most of the time from the haters. And they all seem to come from legitimate sources not just nobody's.
At 2.75 million per year it's not even worth writing that he could receive an offer sheet, this report is garbage.
Edit: According to this report P.K. with his stats is worth 1 million less to the Montreal Canadiens than Eric Johnson to the Colorado Avalanche with roughly lower stats.
