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08-07-2012, 07:50 PM
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I'll echo what others here have said, we need to identify the guys that are likely to actually score shootout goals instead of sending guys who had a good game. Shootouts needs to be taken seriously by the coaching staff.

It definitely is an issue but not enough to acquire a ''shootout specialist''. Speaking of that...

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One of these things has no contract at the moment and could be had for cheap for just these sorts of situations...
Hey we could get Pierre Dagenais as well! He rocked the house in shootouts.

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08-07-2012, 08:04 PM
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Well, we see more and more shootout.

I wouldn't sign anybody just because they're good in shootout either.
But i would identify the best players in shootout, and try to make them even better.
I wouldn't change every single shootout like they did last year.

Seriously, they even tried Gomez
In the case of Gomez, they strictly went with him to try and boost confidence. Last year was all about trying Gomez in every situation and role possible, which included the shoot-out. However I like the idea of giving the nod to the hot hand of the night. If Bourque scores 2 goals one night, is it entirely right to leave him off the first three shooters? Absolutely not. What if Subban has the only goal in a 1-1 tie and he showed nothing but confidence with the puck?

A candy is a candy, but if someone is unexpectedly hot one night, you give him a chance. It may not always lead to a win but I feel more comfortable giving that guy the chance over someone that may be good in shoot-outs but was cold all night.

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I almost felt that the shoot-out was the diff between 8th & last. I know I was only on GDT for 4 or 5 or those endless OT Losses, but felt like I was on-line for all of them.

Probably because during season I would mention it next day.

IMO The Jussi Jokenen's are an important part of a balanced NHL!

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In the case of Gomez, they strictly went with him to try and boost confidence. Last year was all about trying Gomez in every situation and role possible, which included the shoot-out. However I like the idea of giving the nod to the hot hand of the night. If Bourque scores 2 goals one night, is it entirely right to leave him off the first three shooters? Absolutely not. What if Subban has the only goal in a 1-1 tie and he showed nothing but confidence with the puck?

A candy is a candy, but if someone is unexpectedly hot one night, you give him a chance. It may not always lead to a win but I feel more comfortable giving that guy the chance over someone that may be good in shoot-outs but was cold all night.
Believe it or not, Gomez had success in the shoutoot in the past : snod:

That's where i disagree.
I think in the overtime, that's where the candy should be given....and powerplay time also.

A player is hot, give him shifts in overtime and powerplay but stick with the guys that can make the shoutoot a speciality.

Do you remember Nigel Dawes?
Briefly a NHLer

But the Rangers always used him in shootout when he was in the line-up cause he was good 1 on 1. Jacques Martin knew that cause he used him even though he wasn't a regular NHLer....did score also!

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08-08-2012, 12:26 PM
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I think there's a lot of wisdom in this:



I'm of this opinion too. I think the shootout should be run like the PP and PK - a designated squad who have proven (in practices, at least) to have some success in this particular situation. Not based on hunches, and not as a reward for effort.


Hunches can win you games. I'm not saying base your stategy on it, but if Eller is having a great game, you put him out and hope for the best.


Gomez scored a few big shootout goals, and so did Maxim Lapierre back in the days.

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