my goal is for the fans on here to chill. If I weren't familiar with this board and just read through some of the threads I would think the hawks were in competition for the #1 pick.
I don't know, full season of Carcillo, Shaw, Brookbank, Montador, Bickell playing better...it may be possible.
Neither Brookbank, Montador are overly physcial, Brookbank is physical for the Hawks but had only just over 100 hits in 80 games, so not exactly a wrecking ball. Bickell played 71 games last year too so it's not like he missed most of the season. The Hawks simply don't have the player, outside of Shaw, Seabrook, Carcillo no one will probably have more then 120 hits.
Neither Brookbank, Montador are overly physcial, Brookbank is physical for the Hawks but had only just over 100 hits in 80 games, so not exactly a wrecking ball. Bickell played 71 games last year too so it's not like he missed most of the season. The Hawks simply don't have the player, outside of Shaw, Seabrook, Carcillo no one will probably have more then 120 hits.
We'll see how Beach progresses. He would be a god send. (especially in the top 9) Olsen is definitely a physical d-man too. Kid had 43 hits in only 28 games last season (and none of them were cheapies.. to put it in perspective, he had 1 more than Hammer and 3-6 less than Keith, Montador and O'Donnell who all played twice as many games) Brookbank will help though. Problem is, he is just never healthy other than last year. (in his contract year) Jimmy Hayes is another guy who was physical (plays soft for his size at times too, but he seems to "get it" more than Bickell). We'll see how much these kids play during the season but they along with Carcillo, Seabs, Shaw, Bickell, and Mayers will help (just need more grit in the top 6 and of course a physical d-man in the mid or bottom parings)
Neither Brookbank, Montador are overly physcial, Brookbank is physical for the Hawks but had only just over 100 hits in 80 games, so not exactly a wrecking ball. Bickell played 71 games last year too so it's not like he missed most of the season. The Hawks simply don't have the player, outside of Shaw, Seabrook, Carcillo no one will probably have more then 120 hits.
There’s also more to physicality than the number of hits we register. This team has been terrible in the grit department and lose most of the board battles. That and the opps allowed to roam around in our end, especially in the slot with no worries. As a direct result, I’d venture to say this team is near the top in allowing goals from tip-ins or screen shots from the point. That needs to be fixed with a fundamental system change, and I am not confident that it will. Q needs to get out of the mindset that what worked 2+ years ago is not always going to work going forward, but he’s stuck there it seems.
There’s also more to physicality than the number of hits we register. This team has been terrible in the grit department and lose most of the board battles. That and the opps allowed to roam around in our end, especially in the slot with no worries. As a direct result, I’d venture to say this team is near the top in allowing goals from tip-ins or screen shots from the point. That needs to be fixed with a fundamental system change, and I am not confident that it will. Q needs to get out of the mindset that what worked 2+ years ago is not always going to work going forward, but he’s stuck there it seems.
Agreed on everything else for sure, but the bolded, while we allow more than we should, it is so incredibly overblown by our broadcasters that I can't say for sure we are at the top of the league. We are at the top at allowing tipped shots to cross the goal line, that I can fully agree with. Tips are part of the game, don't always happen in the front of the net, definitely don't always happen intentially, sometimes come off our own defenders, part of the game the goalies need to be better about just as much as the skaters.
Neither Brookbank, Montador are overly physcial, Brookbank is physical for the Hawks but had only just over 100 hits in 80 games, so not exactly a wrecking ball. Bickell played 71 games last year too so it's not like he missed most of the season. The Hawks simply don't have the player, outside of Shaw, Seabrook, Carcillo no one will probably have more then 120 hits.
Brookbank, and Montador bring more physicality than Lepisto, and OD. I know Bickell almost played a full season, but if he plays like he did in the playoffs and late in the season, he could be good for 150+ hits.
I see Brookbank, Carcillo, Seabrook, Bickell, and Shaw all registering more than 120 hits, and a couple more players like Stalberg, Hammer and Mayers with around 100.
...but I agree, not enough.
But it would still be nice to be in the tiop half of the league, that means players stepped up their physical game, and are putting more heart into it!
Agreed on everything else for sure, but the bolded, while we allow more than we should, it is so incredibly overblown by our broadcasters that I can't say for sure we are at the top of the league. We are at the top at allowing tipped shots to cross the goal line, that I can fully agree with. Tips are part of the game, don't always happen in the front of the net, definitely don't always happen intentially, sometimes come off our own defenders, part of the game the goalies need to be better about just as much as the skaters.
I don’t disagree. Unfortunately both of our goalies rely on their positioning and fundamentals to get the job done. I doubt either will get much better at picking up deflections. Athleticism cannot be taught. It is up to our defensive coverage to get better and more physical, and Q must abandon that dumb low collapse system that leaves the points wide open. This is true at ES and on the PK. Opps teams feed off of it.
Brookbank, and Montador bring more physicality than Lepisto, and OD. I know Bickell almost played a full season, but if he plays like he did in the playoffs and late in the season, he could be good for 150+ hits.
I see Brookbank, Carcillo, Seabrook, Bickell, and Shaw all registering more than 120 hits, and a couple more players like Stalberg, Hammer and Mayers with around 100.
...but I agree, not enough.
But it would still be nice to be in the tiop half of the league, that means players stepped up their physical game, and are putting more heart into it!
Unlikely to happen with the present roster but more importantly the entire team team needs to play with more grit. Rubbing a player off the puck is often as effective as a registered hit. This again is up to the coaching staff to instill this into the players... and floaters need to sit until they get it.
We would need roughly 3.5 more hits per game to get in the top half of the league. It's not completely out of the question if some of the guys step up.
We would need roughly 3.5 more hits per game to get in the top half of the league. It's not completely out of the question if some of the guys step up.
We would have needed to pick up Matt Martin or something to get that done.
my goal is for the fans on here to chill. If I weren't familiar with this board and just read through some of the threads I would think the hawks were in competition for the #1 pick.
another elite forward with questionable defensive skills? i'd prefer jones, thanks.
Topic? The "specific goal" I'd like to see accomplished is a team with lines, whoever is playing on them, that are sufficiently consistent that the players generate consistency with each other. This might be a fantasy considering our current coach.
