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08-09-2012, 02:18 PM
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Love this move. Ottawa has a lot of forwards so they let him go to get a shot somewhere else. I think he'll fit in nicely on the third line.

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Decent reclamation project type move, I like it. Even with Butler signed, I think we might try to trade for a forward and still bring back Sykora. Tedenby, Butler, and Sykora could all fight for a spot in camp, none of them will be handed anything.

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After all these welcome reports from Sens fans, I realized I've been thinking of Colin Greening this whole time and not Bobby Butler.

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I'm always inclined to listen very closely to what the fans of previous teams have to say about a player. From what Sens fans are saying, he's like Tedenby without the tenacious forecheck and penalty drawing ability. Doesn't sound too good to me. Players don't just magically find defensive ability. They have to work hard at that part of the game to learn it. Hopefully he's been working hard to find it, and he turns his game around. As has been mentioned, though, low risk since it's a 2 way deal.
Coming from Senator fans and their amazing defense these past two years?? I am all for this move, Bobby will now play in an offensive system that he likes with the responsibilites of being defensive, what better place to improve your all around game than NJ? This is a very very good move by Lou.

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Low risk potential high reward no reason not to like it.

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Honestly, I think people get too high and low on him. His first year ( the half season) people said future 30 goal scorer and fixture on Spezzas wing. After last year he was a AHL player.

He was out of shape to start the year, then got injured soon after he came back.

I think winning an AHL title his first year and getting first line minutes in the NHL was actually bad for him. He deserved what he got at the start of the year by playing on the fourth line.

But towards the end of the year, he did hustle, and played positional defensive hockey. Now im not saying he should be a bottom sixer, but if he becomes less of a liability, with his goal scoring, he's an NHLer

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Honestly, I think people get too high and low on him. His first year ( the half season) people said future 30 goal scorer and fixture on Spezzas wing. After last year he was a AHL player.

He was out of shape to start the year, then got injured soon after he came back.

I think winning an AHL title his first year and getting first line minutes in the NHL was actually bad for him. He deserved what he got at the start of the year by playing on the fourth line.

But towards the end of the year, he did hustle, and played positional defensive hockey. Now im not saying he should be a bottom sixer, but if he becomes less of a liability, with his goal scoring, he's an NHLer
Thanks for the honest evaluation.

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so we've seen him positioned anywhere from 2nd line to AHL scrub at this point. Anyone want to throw him on D? lol

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so we've seen him positioned anywhere from 2nd line to AHL scrub at this point. Anyone want to throw him on D? lol
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After all these welcome reports from Sens fans, I realized I've been thinking of Colin Greening this whole time and not Bobby Butler.
I wish we signed Greening. He was a fan favourite at Cornell for a reason.

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Devils made the announcement

http://devils.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=639518

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Could be good, can't be bad considering it's a 1yr/2way.

Smart move here.

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I like it. Low risk, medium reward

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Lamoriello feels that Butler has potential to be "a top six forward."



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Devils GM Lou Lamoriello said Butler's performance will determine if he' on NHL roster or in Albany, but "he'll be given every opportunity."

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Hope he steps up; from what Sens fans have been saying, he's got decent potential. Can't replace Poni's big body presence, but can hopefully score somewhere between 15-20.

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Lamoriello consulted with former Binghamton coach Kurt Kleinendorst and New Hampshire coach Dick Umile.

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He'll score 25 goals this year.

In Albany.

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Honestly, I think people get too high and low on him. His first year ( the half season) people said future 30 goal scorer and fixture on Spezzas wing. After last year he was a AHL player.

He was out of shape to start the year, then got injured soon after he came back.

I think winning an AHL title his first year and getting first line minutes in the NHL was actually bad for him. He deserved what he got at the start of the year by playing on the fourth line.

But towards the end of the year, he did hustle, and played positional defensive hockey. Now im not saying he should be a bottom sixer, but if he becomes less of a liability, with his goal scoring, he's an NHLer
Seems like a good evaluation. His true talent probably lies somewhere in the middle, a 15-20 goal scorer who isn't a sieve in his own end.

In case anyone is interested, some advanced stats (numbers in parentheses is Butler's rank among OTT forwards who played 20+ games):

11-12
QualComp: -0.293 (10/15)
Corsi Rel: 3.5 (6/15)
Pen. Drawn/60: 0.7 (8/15)
Off. Zone Start: 56.1% (7/15)

10-11
QualComp: 0.478 (5/13)
Corsi Rel: 2.1 (8/13)
Pen. Drawn/60: 0.6 (12/13)
Off. Zone Start: 50.0% (10/13)

Nothing too spectacular jumps out here. Doesn't seem to draw many penalties and was slightly positive in puck possession, but more or less in the middle of the pack in relation to his teammates. There wasn't any real extreme in his zone usage.

Butler's 36 game 10-11 season was pretty impressive. His 13.7% shooting percentage was high, but not any higher than his AHL or college numbers indicate. So he probably does have some real shooting talent. He also generated over 2 shots per game, which is very impressive for a rookie. In 11-12 his shooting percentage dipped to 7.0%, which might be the result of some poor luck since he's always been a good shooter. The disconcerting part is that his shot generation dropped to 1.5 shots per game.

Overall, I like this signing.

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If he scores, I'm going to say "Get served" because I'm a cool guy, and I'm very original. No one is better than I am.

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Seems like a good evaluation. His true talent probably lies somewhere in the middle, a 15-20 goal scorer who isn't a sieve in his own end.

In case anyone is interested, some advanced stats (numbers in parentheses is Butler's rank among OTT forwards who played 20+ games):

11-12
QualComp: -0.293 (10/15)
Corsi Rel: 3.5 (6/15)
Pen. Drawn/60: 0.7 (8/15)
Off. Zone Start: 56.1% (7/15)

10-11
QualComp: 0.478 (5/13)
Corsi Rel: 2.1 (8/13)
Pen. Drawn/60: 0.6 (12/13)
Off. Zone Start: 50.0% (10/13)

Nothing too spectacular jumps out here. Doesn't seem to draw many penalties and was slightly positive in puck possession, but more or less in the middle of the pack in relation to his teammates. There wasn't any real extreme in his zone usage.

Butler's 36 game 10-11 season was pretty impressive. His 13.7% shooting percentage was high, but not any higher than his AHL or college numbers indicate. So he probably does have some real shooting talent. He also generated over 2 shots per game, which is very impressive for a rookie. In 11-12 his shooting percentage dipped to 7.0%, which might be the result of some poor luck since he's always been a good shooter. The disconcerting part is that his shot generation dropped to 1.5 shots per game.

Overall, I like this signing.
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Seems like a good evaluation. His true talent probably lies somewhere in the middle, a 15-20 goal scorer who isn't a sieve in his own end.

In case anyone is interested, some advanced stats (numbers in parentheses is Butler's rank among OTT forwards who played 20+ games):

11-12
QualComp: -0.293 (10/15)
Corsi Rel: 3.5 (6/15)
Pen. Drawn/60: 0.7 (8/15)
Off. Zone Start: 56.1% (7/15)

10-11
QualComp: 0.478 (5/13)
Corsi Rel: 2.1 (8/13)
Pen. Drawn/60: 0.6 (12/13)
Off. Zone Start: 50.0% (10/13)

Nothing too spectacular jumps out here. Doesn't seem to draw many penalties and was slightly positive in puck possession, but more or less in the middle of the pack in relation to his teammates. There wasn't any real extreme in his zone usage.

Butler's 36 game 10-11 season was pretty impressive. His 13.7% shooting percentage was high, but not any higher than his AHL or college numbers indicate. So he probably does have some real shooting talent. He also generated over 2 shots per game, which is very impressive for a rookie. In 11-12 his shooting percentage dipped to 7.0%, which might be the result of some poor luck since he's always been a good shooter. The disconcerting part is that his shot generation dropped to 1.5 shots per game.

Overall, I like this signing.
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Considering the total lack of forward depth within the organization right now, there's definitely nothing to complain about with this signing.

I think he'd do well with Elias & Henrique. Hopefully their 2-way game can rub off on him, as well (if he does, indeed, have the defensive setbacks that were previously mentioned in this thread)

Now I'd like to see Sykora re-signed. Him and Tedenby can split 3rd line duties with Josefson & Clarkson. Neither seems to have it in them to play 82 games. It'd also add a bit more depth, as well.

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