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08-10-2012, 01:05 AM
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Really?
This is a value of thread, on the trade forum. Obviously implied we're talking trade value/trades here guy.

Lol @ you showing up to value of Cowen thread to pump Luongo's on ice performance

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08-10-2012, 01:06 AM
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Really?
hes saying Luongo is a better goalie but considering contracts Anderson is a better asset.

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I get how hf works.... But seriously?
Luongo was a lot better in the first couple of months (they both had abysmal Octobers) but Anderson was better starting in January. Anderson was an absolute beast in the playoffs while Luongo choked up again and delivered a substandard performance in his two games. Anderson has the better contract in terms of dollars and term.


At the very least, to say the difference between them is Jared Cowen is an insultingly low value of Cowen.

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08-10-2012, 08:46 AM
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Luongo was a lot better in the first couple of months (they both had abysmal Octobers) but Anderson was better starting in January. Anderson was an absolute beast in the playoffs while Luongo choked up again and delivered a substandard performance in his two games. Anderson has the better contract in terms of dollars and term.


At the very least, to say the difference between them is Jared Cowen is an insultingly low value of Cowen.
I wouldn't say he choked last playoffs exactly. He was strong in game 1. Bad in game 2. It is however a little annoying hearing "Luongo was our best player in the first two games!" The team must have played real bad because he stunk the joint out in game 2.

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08-10-2012, 08:56 AM
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Glad we straightened that out. Nobody needs a 5M backup for 10 more years
Obviously your username is a lie. Unless you are not Mandy.

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08-10-2012, 08:59 AM
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I get how hf works.... But seriously?
Actually Anderson having higher trade value that Luongo would not surprise me. Clealry Lou is the better goalie, but when you consider the contracts, and the fact that Lehner and Bishop are waiting impatiently in the wings.....

Vanvouver has already determined that Schneider is more valuable than Louongo. Is Anderson more valuable than Schneider?

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08-10-2012, 09:04 AM
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Cowen and Turris for Yakopov would work, but leave a gaping hole on defense for Ottawa.

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08-10-2012, 09:13 AM
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Actually Anderson having higher trade value that Luongo would not surprise me. Clealry Lou is the better goalie, but when you consider the contracts, and the fact that Lehner and Bishop are waiting impatiently in the wings.....

Vanvouver has already determined that Schneider is more valuable than Louongo. Is Anderson more valuable than Schneider?
Schneider is younger than Luongo, but to be honest I'd expect their returns to be similar.

I'd say Luongo's value is significantly higher than Anderson, as his cap-hit is very good, and he is very unlikely to play out his whole contract(even said in an interview it was probably longer than he might like to play for).

This is getting way off topic, though.

What are Ottawa's needs? That's the only way to establish what is a realistic return they would be looking for.

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08-10-2012, 10:09 AM
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Schneider is younger than Luongo, but to be honest I'd expect their returns to be similar.

I'd say Luongo's value is significantly higher than Anderson, as his cap-hit is very good, and he is very unlikely to play out his whole contract(even said in an interview it was probably longer than he might like to play for).

This is getting way off topic, though.

What are Ottawa's needs? That's the only way to establish what is a realistic return they would be looking for.
One of our biggest needs is another player sort of like Cowen, so I don't see what kind of move could be made involving him.

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08-10-2012, 10:27 AM
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I realize that Ottawa wouldn't part with Cowen but if Anaheim really was looking to move Bobby Ryan they should look at Ottawa as a team of interest. Cowen, Turris, Zibanejad, Noesen, Greening and Wiercioch would all be pieces that would fit in Anaheim.

Cowen+Greening+3rd


Turris+Zibanejad+Wiercioch


Turris+Noesen+1st


If Ottawa was ready to package young assets for a proven scorer I think we have good trade partners here. This would be the only type of deal you'd see that included Cowen-- his trade value has come no where near catching up to his potential just yet.

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08-10-2012, 10:29 AM
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Obviously your username is a lie. Unless you are not Mandy.
Haha clearly just a big Mandy supporter or maybe speaking on Mandy's behalf.

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08-10-2012, 10:32 AM
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08-10-2012, 11:06 AM
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To Ottawa:Jared Tinordi
3rd Rd 2013

To Montreal:Cowen


To Flyers:Cowen

To Ottawa:E.Wellwood
4th Rd 2013

To Calgary:Cowen

To Ottawa:Brodie
3Rd 2013

To Ny Islanders:Cowen

To Ottawa:Bailey

To Toronto:Cowen

To Ottawa:Jesse Blacker
2nd Rd 2013
Every one of those is absolute garbage. He is way too valuable to the team to even consider those, let alone his skill or potential.

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Schneider is younger than Luongo, but to be honest I'd expect their returns to be similar.

I'd say Luongo's value is significantly higher than Anderson, as his cap-hit is very good, and he is very unlikely to play out his whole contract(even said in an interview it was probably longer than he might like to play for).

This is getting way off topic, though.

What are Ottawa's needs? That's the only way to establish what is a realistic return they would be looking for.
While Luongo is still considered #1 goalie caliber, he's already shown major signs of inconsistency and regression. His salary is high for bit (that matters too), and then he has a 5+M cap hit for 10 years. Nobody wants any part of that except for Toronto, which is why he hasn't been dealt yet. Doubt he has higher value than a slightly worse Anderson.


Ottawa's needs? If Ottawa traded Cowen, their need would be a young potential top pair defenseman. Which is why this thread makes no sense.

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I realize that Ottawa wouldn't part with Cowen but if Anaheim really was looking to move Bobby Ryan they should look at Ottawa as a team of interest. Cowen, Turris, Zibanejad, Noesen, Greening and Wiercioch would all be pieces that would fit in Anaheim.

Cowen+Greening+3rd


Turris+Zibanejad+Wiercioch


Turris+Noesen+1st


If Ottawa was ready to package young assets for a proven scorer I think we have good trade partners here. This would be the only type of deal you'd see that included Cowen-- his trade value has come no where near catching up to his potential just yet.
No to all those... Ottawa is rebuilding and will keep the young players. The closest one is the one involving Cowen but it leaves a huge hole on D.

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08-10-2012, 11:58 AM
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To Ottawa:Jared Tinordi
3rd Rd 2013

To Montreal:Cowen


To Flyers:Cowen

To Ottawa:E.Wellwood
4th Rd 2013

To Calgary:Cowen

To Ottawa:Brodie
3Rd 2013

To Ny Islanders:Cowen

To Ottawa:Bailey

To Toronto:Cowen

To Ottawa:Jesse Blacker
2nd Rd 2013
Garbage, all garbage.

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Prospects/young NHL players with high ceilings like this usually only get traded in a package for a stud at a position of weakness or a major upgrade. Cowen won't be traded unless they were say going after Keith Yandle. Only way I see him getting traded for another prospect is if he in disgruntled in Ottawa(which I do not see)(I.E. Turris)
Very well said. Though Yandle, while very good, is not really the type of Dman we need. We need another very good young shutdown or 2-way Dman that could play with Ceci long term (Cowen is Karlsson's likely long-term partner), so trading Cowen opens that hole bigger. The only other need we really have is a top line young winger (like Ryan), so maybe something with Anaheim for Ryan, but someone would have to come back with Ryan to at least somewhat fill the hole left by Cowen.

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Cowen and Turris for Yakopov would work, but leave a gaping hole on defense for Ottawa.
Too many unknowns here, nobody knows where any of the 3 will top out, especially Yakupov, given he's the only one with zero NHL experience. If Ottawa makes this trade, and Yakupov busts, we are left with no 2C, our 1C approaching 30, and a gaping hole on the back end. This trade could only potentially work a few years from now, and even then, Spezza will be firmly out of his prime, it would likely make us worse.

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Something along the lines of Couturier, Coburn for Cowen, Lehner, Regin?

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08-10-2012, 12:18 PM
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To Ottawa:Jared Tinordi
3rd Rd 2013

To Montreal:Cowen


To Flyers:Cowen

To Ottawa:E.Wellwood
4th Rd 2013

To Calgary:Cowen

To Ottawa:Brodie
3Rd 2013

To Ny Islanders:Cowen

To Ottawa:Bailey

To Toronto:Cowen

To Ottawa:Jesse Blacker
2nd Rd 2013
All deals are a big no from Ottawa.

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Cowen's become incredibly overrated.

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Cowen's become incredibly overrated.
No the problem is Cowen is exactly what Ott needs. A young big defensive dman.

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Cowen's become incredibly overrated.
Blue chip prospect who had a good to great rookie season , huge , mean young Dman. they do not get traded also it s pretty hard t overrate those kind of players since the whole league is looking for them.

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We wouldn't trade him - ever. He's exactly what we need and is mostly potential at this point and thus teams aren't going to offer the world for him.

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Cowen's become incredibly overrated.
He's so good, give him a real watch sometime. Great hockey sense, great mobility and definite offensive upside. Sens need him way more than they need anything coming back from a trade.

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Something along the lines of Couturier, Coburn for Cowen, Lehner, Regin?
How about Bishop, Condra & Regin for Couturier?

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How about Bishop, Condra & Regin for Couturier?
That's an awful counter proposal.

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