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08-09-2012, 07:39 PM
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Thank you so much, I went with Josi after all and am pretty happy. Hopefully he can stay healthy this season, he's going to be a real solid player for you guys!

And thank you for the hospitality I've always had a soft spot for the Preds and this offseason has brought me even closer with you folks.
I'd keep an eye on Ryan Ellis as well. He's liable to get much more PP time with Suter gone, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him wind up with more points than Klein or Blum.

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I'd keep an eye on Ryan Ellis as well. He's liable to get much more PP time with Suter gone, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him wind up with more points than Klein or Blum.
Unfortunately Ellis had already been chosen otherwise I would have probably taken him.

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08-10-2012, 12:22 AM
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Unfortunately Ellis had already been chosen otherwise I would have probably taken him.
Don't fret. Josi is already a stud. He can only get better with a partner like Weber. Trotz already said him and Weber will be paired up during training camp.

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Unfortunately Ellis had already been chosen otherwise I would have probably taken him.
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Your camp invitee hungarian goalie Zoltan Hetenyi have signed a deal with Milwaukee. He is a great guy and a huge fan favourite even only beeing here for 1 year.

Jokerit Helsinki --> Milwaukee Admirals

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Your camp invitee hungarian goalie Zoltan Hetenyi have signed a deal with Milwaukee.

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YES! Saw this guy at prospect camp and have been talking him up like crazy ever since (see the prospect camp thread or "ads to watch" thread). He was easily the best goalie at prospects camp. Blew Hellberg out of the water.

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He has improved in one year a lot but is still raw...so there is still room for improvement. Zoltan is excited to go in Milwaukee and hopefully they treat him well there.

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He has improved in one year a lot but is still raw...so there is still room for improvement. Zoltan is excited to go in Milwaukee.
He definetly looked unrefined, but that is what Mitch Korn is for. He reminded my (style-wise) of Tim Thomas. A little bit small, but played an incredibly aggressive game. Challenged every shot in a big way, lots of poke checks, etc. He went into the trapazoid about three times in a 40 minute scrimmage so we need to clear that up

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Your camp invitee hungarian goalie Zoltan Hetenyi have signed a deal with Milwaukee. He is a great guy and a huge fan favourite even only beeing here for 1 year.

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Is there a source on that? Hetenyi signed a one-year extension in SM-liiga back in May. I can't find anything on a deal with Milwaukee yet.

If so, I'd suspect that Smith is locked in as the No. 1 in Milwaukee and they are looking to split Hetenyi and Hellburg this season as No. 2 in Milwaukee and No. 1 in Cincinnati...

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Is there a source on that? Hetenyi signed a one-year extension in SM-liiga back in May. I can't find anything on a deal with Milwaukee yet.

If so, I'd suspect that Smith is locked in as the No. 1 in Milwaukee and they are looking to split Hetenyi and Hellburg this season as No. 2 in Milwaukee and No. 1 in Cincinnati...
What happened to Engren?

I can't find a source yet either, but it'd make sense to send Pickard over before signing him. Those pieces seem to fit.

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Is there a source on that? Hetenyi signed a one-year extension in SM-liiga back in May. I can't find anything on a deal with Milwaukee yet.

If so, I'd suspect that Smith is locked in as the No. 1 in Milwaukee and they are looking to split Hetenyi and Hellburg this season as No. 2 in Milwaukee and No. 1 in Cincinnati...
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And Jokerit twitter. I can't read Finnish, but I see the works "Hetenyi" "AHL" and "Milwaukee Admiralsin"

https://twitter.com/jokerithc/status/233946128939376640

And now Josh Cooper reports the Ads sign Hetenyi and Foss. This is legit.

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Thanks! I searched Google News and came up with the links as well.

Josh Cooper has it up on his blog on the TNn too now.

Looks like an AHL deal since it was announced by Milwaukee.

Jeff Foss was also signed by the Ads this morning as well. He spent time shuttling between Milwaukee and Cincinnati last season.

Hellberg will have the upper hand with an NHL deal, but will likely be asked to prove himself as well. Should be an interesting competition...

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What happened to Engren?

I can't find a source yet either, but it'd make sense to send Pickard over before signing him. Those pieces seem to fit.
As an RFA this summer, Engren returned to his SM-liiga team on a two-year contract. He is still Predators property, but is not available for the next year at least...

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08-10-2012, 11:37 AM
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Zoltan is also followed in Hungary

http://sport.hir24.hu/jegkorong/2012...lon-folytatja/
http://www.nemzetisport.hu/jegkorong...ytatja-2162485
http://www.telesport.hu/Hirek/2012/0...folytatja.aspx
http://aspiler.blog.nepsport.hu/arch...li_az_AHL-ben/

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It still looks like Detroit is the front runner for JBo, however, Preds are mentioned as having interest as well.

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL.../20088051.html

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It still looks like Detroit is the front runner for JBo, however, Preds are mentioned as having interest as well.

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL.../20088051.html
I want to see this happen.

The downgrade from Suter to JBo will be more than offset by the kids on the roster getting a year of experience, and we'll have a better team than we did last year, IMHO.

I wonder if he's waive his NTC to come to Nashville? He played in Florida for so long, I don't know if he'd be adverse to a non-traditional market.

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He has improved in one year a lot but is still raw...so there is still room for improvement. Zoltan is excited to go in Milwaukee and hopefully they treat him well there.
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I wonder if he's waive his NTC to come to Nashville? He played in Florida for so long, I don't know if he'd be adverse to a non-traditional market.
More importantly, he wouldn't be playing for Calgary anymore. That team is a sinking ship...

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I want to see this happen.

The downgrade from Suter to JBo will be more than offset by the kids on the roster getting a year of experience, and we'll have a better team than we did last year, IMHO.

I wonder if he's waive his NTC to come to Nashville? He played in Florida for so long, I don't know if he'd be adverse to a non-traditional market.
If I were him, and interested in winning, I'd waive the NTC for Nashville without blinking an eye. Now if he's content on playing in Canada and simply getting a paycheck, that's another matter. I'd be all for trying to acquire JBo for the right price. From what I gather, a respectable asking price would be something along the lines of a 2nd round pick and a either good prospect or a capable/warm body defenseman.

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If I were him, and interested in winning, I'd waive the NTC for Nashville without blinking an eye. Now if he's content on playing in Canada and simply getting a paycheck, that's another matter. I'd be all for trying to acquire JBo for the right price. From what I gather, a respectable asking price would be something along the lines of a 2nd round pick and a either good prospect or a capable/warm body defenseman.
In a vacuum, that might get him, but not in real life. It's all about supply and demand. JBO is a respectable #2D or an elite #3D. There are a ton of teams that will want him, especially with the cap rising. Everyone has space, and everyone could use a guy of his skill set.

With Mez and Pronger likely out, Philly will make a run. Detroit is rumored to be involved, as they should. If he'd waive, I could see Edmonton getting in the mix. I'm not sure he is what Pitt needs on defense, but they have 9mil in cap space, and he would make their team better. San Jose has to be getting sick of 1st round exits, and a Burns-JBO pairing would look awfully good.

Bottom line is that the Flames are in a sellers market. JBO and Yandle are the only two players even close to top two defenseman available, so lots of teams will bid. It is going to take Blum+1st easily.

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In a vacuum, that might get him, but not in real life. It's all about supply and demand. JBO is a respectable #2D or an elite #3D. There are a ton of teams that will want him, especially with the cap rising. Everyone has space, and everyone could use a guy of his skill set.

With Mez and Pronger likely out, Philly will make a run. Detroit is rumored to be involved, as they should. If he'd waive, I could see Edmonton getting in the mix. I'm not sure he is what Pitt needs on defense, but they have 9mil in cap space, and he would make their team better. San Jose has to be getting sick of 1st round exits, and a Burns-JBO pairing would look awfully good.

Bottom line is that the Flames are in a sellers market. JBO and Yandle are the only two players even close to top two defenseman available, so lots of teams will bid. It is going to take Blum+1st easily.
It wouldn't surprise me if that's the type of value they receive. It just smells like one of those deals where you wake up next to a lady you picked up at an expensive bar and think to yourself, "Uh oh, what did I do?", "I spent how much?....". There's no doubt it's a sellers market for top 4 defenseman, but he's certainly not worth what the end result will be. Then again, look what Nash got.

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It wouldn't surprise me if that's the type of value they receive. It just smells like one of those deals where you wake up next to a lady you picked up at an expensive bar and think to yourself, "Uh oh, what did I do?", "I spent how much?....". There's no doubt it's a sellers market for top 4 defenseman, but he's certainly not worth what the end result will be. Then again, look what Nash got.
Nash handcuffed them by limiting trade partners. Who knows, JBO could do that same.

I'm not saying I would or wouldn't pay that price, I'm saying someone will pay that (or more), so we have to be prepared to give it if he want him.

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philly will not offer blum and a second type package bc they dont have that. to top that they offer up a forward with the initials SC or BS

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Zoltan

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How did everyone miss that?

The Pirates have been using that for most of the season. If you watch a game and something good happens you will see them flashing the "Z" and the fans really love it as well.



As someone that is 1/2 Hungarian, it is awesome we have someone from Hungary in camp! I missed the development camp so I can't wait for camp to open to see him.

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