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08-08-2012, 09:20 AM
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Neither he nor Patches are worth anywhere near that. What the hell happened to second contracts? What the hell is Rutheford thinking? What the hell is the CBA for if a 20 year old kid with less than 150 games in his career is getting paid MORE THAN MARIAN HOSSA.

Skinner's a good, or great hockey player but this contract is ridiculous. I have no sympathy for Carolina if they are going to claim they're a small-market team - they resigned an RFA with no arbitration rights to a painfully long/expensive deal and they're getting money from the Habs, Leafs, Rags and Co. ********.

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Second contracts are a form of discrimination, it's good to see the idea being eliminated.

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08-08-2012, 10:21 AM
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Second contracts are a form of discrimination, it's good to see the idea being eliminated.
What?

Yeah, it's a great idea to sign Skinner to an extension that takes him to UFA and buys what, 2 seasons of UFA, maybe 1?

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08-08-2012, 10:27 AM
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What?

Yeah, it's a great idea to sign Skinner to an extension that takes him to UFA and buys what, 2 seasons of UFA, maybe 1?
I'm just objecting to the norm that players who are 25, 26 should be paid half as much as players who are 30, 31 for the same production. I'm glad to see that norm going away. I don't like it. I find it gross.

Carolina will have first dibbs on keeping Skinner. Most good players don't make it to UFA.

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08-08-2012, 11:12 AM
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Neither he nor Patches are worth anywhere near that. What the hell happened to second contracts? What the hell is Rutheford thinking? What the hell is the CBA for if a 20 year old kid with less than 150 games in his career is getting paid MORE THAN MARIAN HOSSA.

Skinner's a good, or great hockey player but this contract is ridiculous. I have no sympathy for Carolina if they are going to claim they're a small-market team - they resigned an RFA with no arbitration rights to a painfully long/expensive deal and they're getting money from the Habs, Leafs, Rags and Co. ********.

****ing a.
How the hell is Skinner making more than Hossa? Hossa is making 7.9 mil/year(from 09-10 to 15-16). His cap hit is lower because they added 4 years of 1 mil each at the end. He basically signed for 8 years and 59 mil.

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08-08-2012, 11:21 AM
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I'm just objecting to the norm that players who are 25, 26 should be paid half as much as players who are 30, 31 for the same production. I'm glad to see that norm going away. I don't like it. I find it gross.

Carolina will have first dibbs on keeping Skinner. Most good players don't make it to UFA.
To be fair second contracts are usually when the player is in the 21-23 range. Their second contract should take them to 25-26, where the big pay-day should come.

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08-08-2012, 02:32 PM
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There isn't any second contract guide lines in the CBA. If you object that much then stop buying hockey tickets at the price they sell them. I'm for just and deserved contracts regardless of age or any other prejudice. That said $5.725M is... a bit over the line. Hope it doesn't get him back ala Gomez. (I know there's very little chance of that happening)

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Anyone knows why the Spitfires were punished "severely"? (400k)

http://www.rds.ca/hockey/chroniques/346084.html

Says they violated recruiting & advantages given to players.

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08-12-2012, 12:38 PM
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This Flyers injury thing has to be the best karma attack ever.

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Anyone knows why the Spitfires were punished "severely"? (400k)

http://www.rds.ca/hockey/chroniques/346084.html

Says they violated recruiting & advantages given to players.
This happens with all the big markets CHL teams, they usually give more money to US players and Canadian players who play the US card.

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08-12-2012, 07:21 PM
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This Flyers injury thing has to be the best karma attack ever.
They're running with:

Grossman-Coburn
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Gervais

right now. Two number 2 (aging ex number one in Timmonen and Coburn) a maybe 4 in Grossman, Schenn who was deservedly 3rd pairing in Toronto and a bunch of AHL callups.

They look a lot like Montreal at the start of last season, solid top nine forward group undermined by a weak defensive depth, especially in the 2nd pairing. They have better forwards than Montreal did which might save them but a bad situation for a team trying to be one of the game's elite.

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08-13-2012, 12:27 PM
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damn, i better stop ****posting then

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We are July 13th and A.K. has still not signed a NHL contract, not even a KHL one...

What does it say about his value and reputation ?

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08-13-2012, 01:39 PM
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We are July 13th and A.K. has still not signed a NHL contract, not even a KHL one...

What does it say about his value and reputation ?
The same as all the other players that are UFA?

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08-13-2012, 01:44 PM
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We are July 13th and A.K. has still not signed a NHL contract, not even a KHL one...

What does it say about his value and reputation ?
I assume you'd rather have Rene Bourque, who's older, has shown little with the Habs, and has 2 years left on his contract.

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08-13-2012, 01:49 PM
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We are July 13th and A.K. has still not signed a NHL contract, not even a KHL one...

What does it say about his value and reputation ?
BTW we are in August

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I assume you'd rather have Rene Bourque, who's older, has shown little with the Habs, and has 2 years left on his contract.
Cause AK showed what exactly during his time here? AK messed up in Nashville with Radulov, did you really expect teams to be all over him?

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08-13-2012, 02:12 PM
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How the hell is Skinner making more than Hossa? Hossa is making 7.9 mil/year(from 09-10 to 15-16). His cap hit is lower because they added 4 years of 1 mil each at the end. He basically signed for 8 years and 59 mil.
In addition to re-signing Skinner the Hurricanes signed Semin and traded for Jordan Staal. Where is the money coming from? Surely not the attendance revenue.

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They're running with:

Grossman-Coburn
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Gustaffson-Bourdon
Gervais

right now. Two number 2 (aging ex number one in Timmonen and Coburn) a maybe 4 in Grossman, Schenn who was deservedly 3rd pairing in Toronto and a bunch of AHL callups.

They look a lot like Montreal at the start of last season, solid top nine forward group undermined by a weak defensive depth, especially in the 2nd pairing. They have better forwards than Montreal did which might save them but a bad situation for a team trying to be one of the game's elite.
Don't forget the timebomb they have in net. They aren't going anywhere with Bryz.

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08-13-2012, 02:35 PM
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Not sure where to put this but whatever.

Fresh off my trip to Montreal for my buddies bachelor party, we arranged our next adventure. Saturday October 6th, Caps @ Canadiens. I have to say, I have been to many places, but Montreal was so unique and wonderful I can not stay away. Not to mention the most beautiful women I have ever seen. (And they don't look down on me for being a cigarette smoker haha)

I am definitely looking forward to seeing live action in the Bell Centre... Hockey season can not come soon enough!

Any tips for surviving our first Bell experience? We decided to drive up this time, and we have our hotel all booked, but what can we expect in terms of ticket prices? I'd like to sit pretty close to the action as it is an away game.


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08-13-2012, 02:42 PM
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We are July 13th and A.K. has still not signed a NHL contract, not even a KHL one...

What does it say about his value and reputation ?
It just shows we wasted about 5 years too many holding on this bum.

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Cause AK showed what exactly during his time here? AK messed up in Nashville with Radulov, did you really expect teams to be all over him?
He didn't mess up on the ice, but really, who cares about that..

AK is a good top 6-9 depth player. He's probably asking too much and will end up having to take a decrease, much like it happened with Tanguay.

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Not sure where to put this but whatever.

Fresh off my trip to Montreal for my buddies bachelor party, we arranged our next adventure. Saturday October 6th, Caps @ Canadiens. I have to say, I have been to many places, but Montreal was so unique and wonderful I can not stay away. Not to mention the most beautiful women I have ever seen. (And they don't look down on me for being a cigarette smoker haha)

I am definitely looking forward to seeing live action in the Bell Centre... Hockey season can not come soon enough!

Any tips for surviving our first Bell experience? We decided to drive up this time, and we have our hotel all booked, but what can we expect in terms of ticket prices? I'd like to sit pretty close to the action as it is an away game.
You booked your hotel before locking some tickets up? Prepare to pay scalper prices.

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You booked your hotel before locking some tickets up? Prepare to pay scalper prices.
I'm used to some pretty high prices living in DC. Are we talking 1-150 upper level; 2+ everywhere else?

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I'm used to some pretty high prices living in DC. Are we talking 1-150 upper level; 2+ everywhere else?
Well, that's pretty much the range some people sell them at on stubhub, so I assume scalpers are even more.

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