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08-11-2012, 07:32 AM
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Volchenkov to the Red Wings

Sorry if there was another thread posted like this, but what would it take for the Wings to acquire Anton Volchenkov? The Devils have alot of NHL caliber defenseman, and Volchenkov could be the odd man out. I propose:

Detroit gets: Volchenkov

New Jersey gets: Miller, Emmerton, and a second round pick.

Is the value there?

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08-11-2012, 08:06 AM
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The value is probably decent, but the Devils want an established top-9 forward. Furthermore, I think Greene or Tallinder are more likely to be traded than Volchenkov.

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As a Wings fan, I would jump on this. We have an overabundance of bottom-6 players and almost every trade offer that goes out on the boards with the Wings involves us trying to include Emmerton, Miller, or both.

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No way Volchenkov waives, has a family

Now if you want Tallinder thats a different story

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The Devils' bottom 6 is pretty well set. We'd prefer to get a second line winger out of a trade in return for one of our defenceman.

Volchenkov would probably do pretty well in Detroit, but as others have said, I'm not sure he wants to waive his NTC.

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I think It's fair but I think Detroit would have to add like a third

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I'd think a Tatar+ for Tallinder trade would help both teams more.

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I'd think a Tatar+ for Tallinder trade would help both teams more.
I don't know too much about Tallinder, maybe someone could give me some insight on him, but would Tatar + Emmerton + a 2nd rounder land him? Tatar is more valuable than Miller, and the Wings have too many bottom 6 forwards. Also, our prospect pool is very deep right now, so giving up Tatar wouldn't hurt us.

If not, what do you think a good Tallinder for Tatar+ trade would be?

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I don't know too much about Tallinder, maybe someone could give me some insight on him, but would Tatar + Emmerton + a 2nd rounder land him? Tatar is more valuable than Miller, and the Wings have too many bottom 6 forwards. Also, our prospect pool is very deep right now, so giving up Tatar wouldn't hurt us.

If not, what do you think a good Tallinder for Tatar+ trade would be?
Tallinder is a smooth skating #3/4 who can play tough, reliable minutes when needed. Will only give you around 15 points though, as he is clearly more a defensive defenseman. No physical game to speak of as well.

What's the report on Tatar and Emmerton?

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Sorry if there was another thread posted like this, but what would it take for the Wings to acquire Anton Volchenkov? The Devils have alot of NHL caliber defenseman, and Volchenkov could be the odd man out. I propose:

Detroit gets: Volchenkov

New Jersey gets: Miller, Emmerton, and a second round pick.

Is the value there?
I say the value is there. Don't know much about Emmerton, but Miller seems to be a good 3rd line player (25 points last year) and we add a 2nd round pick and shed 4 more years of Volch.

Not sure if Volch would waive though.

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Tallinder is a smooth skating #3/4 who can play tough, reliable minutes when needed. Will only give you around 15 points though, as he is clearly more a defensive defenseman. No physical game to speak of as well.

What's the report on Tatar and Emmerton?
Tatar is as slick as the come and projects to be a top six winger. Whether he makes it as a playmaker or scorer remains to be seen but he should produce on a teams scoring line in a year or so. Emmerton gets a bad rap among Wings fans and I won't tell you he is great or anything but he has skill, works hard and takes care of his own end. Last year was tough to see what he really is because he was on a really tight leash. I think he still has the potential to be a 25-30 point 3rd liner in this league in the right situation but he has his work cut out for him with that.

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I'd think a Tatar+ for Tallinder trade would help both teams more.
Omg where do I sign?

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Tatar is as slick as the come and projects to be a top six winger. Whether he makes it as a playmaker or scorer remains to be seen but he should produce on a teams scoring line in a year or so. Emmerton gets a bad rap among Wings fans and I won't tell you he is great or anything but he has skill, works hard and takes care of his own end. Last year was tough to see what he really is because he was on a really tight leash. I think he still has the potential to be a 25-30 point 3rd liner in this league in the right situation but he has his work cut out for him with that.
So I assume that's an overpayment on your end haha.

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Omg where do I sign?
Tatar is not being moved for Volchenkov lol he has paid his dues in the minors and been patient. I guarantee that he will be given a fair shake with the Wings before he is traded. If he gets moved it will be because there isn't room in the top 6 next year and Holland wants to give him a good chance to succeed. He's the type of player that Holland loves. Loads of skill, great work ethic and great attitude.


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So I assume that's an overpayment on your end haha.
I don't know that it is overpayment because the value is probably there. Tatar just shows a ton of potential like I said above and the Wings are going to give him every chance to make this team before he is moved unless he is in a package for a star player.

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Tatar is not being moved for Volchenkov lol he has paid his dues in the minors and been patient. I guarantee that he will be given a fair shake with the Wings before he is traded. If he gets moved it will be because there isn't room in the top 6 next year and Holland wants to give him a good chance to succeed. He's the type of player that Holland loves. Loads of skill, great work ethic and great attitude.




I don't know that it is overpayment because the value is probably there. Tatar just shows a ton of potential like I said above and the Wings are going to give him every chance to make this team before he is moved unless he is in a package for a star player.
Volchenkov is a #4/5 18 minute one dimensional defenseman, with 4 years left at a 4.25 AAV cap hit. If the Devils can get a potential top 6 playmaker/scorer in a system barren with forward prospects, a potential 3rd line winger and a 2nd round pick, I'd consider that a very good deal for the Devils, not so much the Wings.

Better off keeping Tatar like you said. How do you feel about proposal in first post?

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Volchenkov is a #4/5 18 minute one dimensional defenseman, with 4 years left at a 4.25 AAV cap hit. If the Devils can get a potential top 6 playmaker/scorer in a system barren with forward prospects, a potential 3rd line winger and a 2nd round pick, I'd consider that a very good deal for the Devils, not so much the Wings.

Better off keeping Tatar like you said. How do you feel about original proposal in first post?
I would pull the trigger on the OP if that is what Lou is saying the price is. The Wings are oozing bottom six forwards and need to drop 2 or 3 of them.

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Would the Devils go for something like this?

OTT
- Volchenkov

NJ
- Greening (17G, 20A in his first full season - Big & fast)
and
- Wiercicoch (Good D propect who might be NHL ready)
or
- Gonchar

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[QUOTE=Lukus;53483365]Would the Devils go for something like this?

OTT
- Volchenkov

NJ
- Greening (17G, 20A in his first full season - Big & fast)
and
- Wiercicoch (Good D propect who might be NHL ready)
or
- Gonchar[/QUOTE
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Would the Devils go for something like this?

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- Volchenkov

NJ
- Greening (17G, 20A in his first full season - Big & fast)
and
- Wiercicoch (Good D propect who might be NHL ready)
or
- Gonchar
The first one, sure

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Would the Devils go for something like this?

OTT
- Volchenkov

NJ
- Greening (17G, 20A in his first full season - Big & fast)
and
- Wiercicoch (Good D propect who might be NHL ready)
or
- Gonchar
No to Gonchar. Yes to 1st deal

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I'd think a Tatar+ for Tallinder trade would help both teams more.
I would do that, not sure Detroit would.

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Would the Devils go for something like this?

OTT
- Volchenkov

NJ
- Greening (17G, 20A in his first full season - Big & fast)
and
- Wiercicoch (Good D propect who might be NHL ready)
or
- Gonchar
We don't want Gonchar.

I like Greening a lot, not least because I drank with the guy a few times when we were in college.

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Boy, what happened to the Volchenkov who earned a 25.5M dollar contract just two years ago? Back when he was facing the toughest competition on the Sens, with the lowest offensive zone start percentage, and still coming out ahead?

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Will not be much of a plus if Tatar is being moved in my opinion.

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Tatar for Volchenkov would be a huge steal by Devils. I would love it though.

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I'd think a Tatar+ for Tallinder trade would help both teams more.
Did you hit your head somewhere this morning?

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