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If there is a lock out, what would you prefer for CGY?

View Poll Results: What's your preference?
Full season loss for better shot at 1st overall 10 25.64%
Shortened season for better shot at playoffs 21 53.85%
Other/Unsure 8 20.51%
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08-12-2012, 03:22 AM
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Doesn't matter. Phoenix would win the lottery to prevent them from moving.

See: Pittsburgh

No im not kidding.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that...

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Does anyone want to guess what the NHLPA will counter with on Tuesday? I'll say that they'll want something like the following:

60% share

2 year entry level contracts

No maximum contract lenghts

shortened schedule of 60 games within the same timespan (October to April)

Increased cap floor

2 million league minimum salary

More games within the division
This may be one of the worst suggestions of what the NHLPA would offer i've ever seen.

60% share means they are getting more of the money. Shortened season means less revenue. Which also means the 2m minimum salary would never work.

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No player will want a shortened season. How will records be broken playing less games.

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This may be one of the worst suggestions of what the NHLPA would offer i've ever seen.

60% share means they are getting more of the money. Shortened season means less revenue. Which also means the 2m minimum salary would never work.

It's just a hardball offer. Like the Owners offer.

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It's just a hardball offer. Like the Owners offer.
Yeah exactly. I'm pretty sure D. Fehr is going to buy some time so that the NHLPA can review all those 76,000 pages of team finances.

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08-26-2012, 08:20 AM
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Bettman is just the owners puppet, higher player salaries arent effecting his 7 mil salary. Higher player salaries will just kill the southern american teams he created.seems as though he is trying to protect his little experiment. Sorry forthe rant just had to get that off my chest, as for the flames, the more hockey the better! kinda

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It has become Bettmans ego vs Fehrs ego and not matter who wins we lose as we won't see hockey for months.

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It has become Bettmans ego vs Fehrs ego and not matter who wins we lose as we won't see hockey for months.
Couldnt be more right! Plus a year without hockey means 1 less good year out of iggy and kipper, without which we are nearly nothing

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Both sides are just greedy and they don't care about the fans. I will say I am more on the players side rather than the owners side like I was last time. But that isn't by much. If the NHL does have a lockout I really hope it hurts the league a little bit, maybe be forced to lose a few southern US teams. Sounds bad but maybe that will make people realize the fans are getting sick of this crap!

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08-27-2012, 02:22 PM
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Both sides are just greedy and they don't care about the fans. I will say I am more on the players side rather than the owners side like I was last time. But that isn't by much. If the NHL does have a lockout I really hope it hurts the league a little bit, maybe be forced to lose a few southern US teams. Sounds bad but maybe that will make people realize the fans are getting sick of this crap!
I disagree completely. If it was a strike, then yes I could say that the players are disregarding the fans (to point) and not putting the game first. But it's a lock-out, and moreover, it's an unneccessary lock-out. The league can spend another season working out the details if they want but instead they choose to stop the game because of greed. This is 100% owners fault. Sure the players could submit to the owners offer and therefore we could see hockey next season, but that offer was so ridiculous that the owners aren't even attempting to prevent a work stoppage. It's insulting to the fans and the players, plain and simple.

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I disagree completely. If it was a strike, then yes I could say that the players are disregarding the fans (to point) and not putting the game first. But it's a lock-out, and moreover, it's an unneccessary lock-out. The league can spend another season working out the details if they want but instead they choose to stop the game because of greed. This is 100% owners fault. Sure the players could submit to the owners offer and therefore we could see hockey next season, but that offer was so ridiculous that the owners aren't even attempting to prevent a work stoppage. It's insulting to the fans and the players, plain and simple.
This isn't true Bettman and the owners wanted to meet before Christmas last year but the players choose not to because they believed waiting would put more pressure on the owners, if there is a lockout both sides are equally guilty it isn't just one sided. People call the owners greedy because they want more money but so do the players its a 2 way street. Personally I hope they sign a 1 year deal that is the exact same as this and continue discussions.

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This isn't true Bettman and the owners wanted to meet before Christmas last year but the players choose not to because they believed waiting would put more pressure on the owners, if there is a lockout both sides are equally guilty it isn't just one sided. People call the owners greedy because they want more money but so do the players its a 2 way street. Personally I hope they sign a 1 year deal that is the exact same as this and continue discussions.
We both know that NHLPA didn't discuss a new CBA until they looked over the books. The NHLPA has finally exercised it's right to audit the owner's and this is a lengthy process. There was a growing speculation that Bettman was pushing for early negotiations before the audit so that way the NHLPA either (a) looks bad for delaying negotiations or (b) doesn't have enough time to find discreprencies in the books.

Sure the players want more money, but they didn't propose an insulting offer that guarantees a lock-out. Honestly, what would you have the players do; accept the owner's offer just so we can have hockey this year? That offer was a greedy disgrace of the negotiation process!

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We both know that NHLPA didn't discuss a new CBA until they looked over the books. The NHLPA has finally exercised it's right to audit the owner's and this is a lengthy process. There was a growing speculation that Bettman was pushing for early negotiations before the audit so that way the NHLPA either (a) looks bad for delaying negotiations or (b) doesn't have enough time to find discreprencies in the books.

Sure the players want more money, but they didn't propose an insulting offer that guarantees a lock-out. Honestly, what would you have the players do; accept the owner's offer just so we can have hockey this year? That offer was a greedy disgrace of the negotiation process!
The could have atleast heard what the league was looking for they simply choose to do nothing.

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