HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > General Hockey Discussion > Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk Trade rumors, transactions, and free agent talk. Rumors must contain the word RUMOR in post title. Proposals must contain the word PROPOSAL in post title.

Three trades that turn Toronto into a legit eastern threat

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
08-13-2012, 01:42 PM
  #1
EvoLu7ioN
Registered User
 
EvoLu7ioN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 2,131
vCash: 500
Three trades that turn Toronto into a legit eastern threat

I'm not a Toronto fan, so no bias here. Just thought up a way to make TO a much better team next year without losing a ton of youth.

Trade 1:
Toronto 2013 first rounder + Reimer for Jay Boumeester + Calgary midgrade prospect. Make this deal first before other improvements, Calgary accepts as the pick could be lottery and they need a younger goalie.

Trade 2:
Jake Gardiner + Toronto 2013 2nd rounder + Calgary mid-grade prospect for Bobby Ryan. Gardiner's a stud, but with Boumeester incoming and Reilly in the wings he's expendable, and Ryan is a beast and still young.

Trade 3:
Lupul + Biggs for Luongo. Vancouver is in win now mode, this provides them with a playmaking winger to play with Kes and booth, and a nice prospect too.



Top 6
Kessel - JVR - Ryan
Kadri - Grabovski - Kulemin

Top 4 D
Bouwmeester - Phaneuf
Reilly - Komisarek

Goal
Luongo
Scrivens

EvoLu7ioN is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
08-13-2012, 01:44 PM
  #2
Marvelous Manked
Ooh to be a Gooner
 
Marvelous Manked's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Sudbury/Ottawa
Country: Canada
Posts: 19,336
vCash: 50
If I were a Laughs Leafs fan I don't know if I'd make any of these deals. The second one probably, the first one maybe/probably, but certainly not the last one.

Marvelous Manked is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-13-2012, 01:44 PM
  #3
SLAPSHOT723
Moderator
Officer Clutterbuck
 
SLAPSHOT723's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Long Island
Posts: 16,539
vCash: 500
If I'm Toronto, I trade assets for a #1 center. Not more defenseman and Luongo.

SLAPSHOT723 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-13-2012, 01:44 PM
  #4
Krishna
Registered User
 
Krishna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Philadelphia
Country: Canada
Posts: 82,048
vCash: 50
Anaheim says no.. They want a player who can play the #2 center spot

Krishna is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-13-2012, 01:45 PM
  #5
Skm
Registered User
 
Skm's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Edmonton
Posts: 2,361
vCash: 1551
Be prepared to get shredded by Ducks and Flames fans. Personally, I think that is more than I'd offer for Bouwmeester and Ducks will want more for Ryan.

I think that is a bit too much for Luongo (more than I'd be comfortable with, anyways) and having Komisarek and Rielly in your top 4 does not spell contender to me.

Skm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-13-2012, 01:47 PM
  #6
Dellstrom
The new age
 
Dellstrom's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Boston
Country: United States
Posts: 17,341
vCash: 50
I'm sorry, but if JVR is your first line center, let alone a center, you are not that much of a threat.

Dellstrom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-13-2012, 01:48 PM
  #7
Leafs For Life*
Nothing
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 6,636
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by EvoLu7ioN View Post
I'm not a Toronto fan, so no bias here. Just thought up a way to make TO a much better team next year without losing a ton of youth.

Trade 1:
Toronto 2013 first rounder + Reimer for Jay Boumeester + Calgary midgrade prospect. Make this deal first before other improvements, Calgary accepts as the pick could be lottery and they need a younger goalie.

Trade 2:
Jake Gardiner + Toronto 2013 2nd rounder + Calgary mid-grade prospect for Bobby Ryan. Gardiner's a stud, but with Boumeester incoming and Reilly in the wings he's expendable, and Ryan is a beast and still young.

Trade 3:
Lupul + Biggs for Luongo. Vancouver is in win now mode, this provides them with a playmaking winger to play with Kes and booth, and a nice prospect too.



Top 6
Kessel - JVR - Ryan
Kadri - Grabovski - Kulemin

Top 4 D
Bouwmeester - Phaneuf
Reilly - Komisarek

Goal
Luongo
Scrivens
No to each deal, we already have a 6.5 dman and then you want to put another, and then you put Komi in the top 4? You must not know what a salary cap is because we are getting 16M back which is absurd, and then you think that we are going to trade our defensive stud+ right back from where we stole him from, and get back a good winger when that is our best position that doesn't need upgrading. Luongo is not worth what Lupul is worth to us+ our best PWF prospect.


Last edited by Leafs For Life*: 08-13-2012 at 01:53 PM.
Leafs For Life* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-13-2012, 01:49 PM
  #8
InfinityIggy
Inflammatory Poster
 
InfinityIggy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Calgary, AB
Country: Canada
Posts: 12,516
vCash: 133
Uhm, so let me get this straight. The Leafs are going to build a contender, and then the Flames trade Bouw for their 1st, because it might be a lottery pick?

What?

Either they are a lottery team or they are a contender, make up your mind. Calgary says hell no to this.

InfinityIggy is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
08-13-2012, 01:50 PM
  #9
EvoLu7ioN
Registered User
 
EvoLu7ioN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 2,131
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by SLAPSHOT723 View Post
If I'm Toronto, I trade assets for a #1 center. Not more defenseman and Luongo.
Sorry, legit #1 centers don't get traded.

The whote idea behind this proposal is that it turns Toronto into a threat so they can potentially attract Getlzlaf in the offseason. Plus, having Ryan helps too.

EvoLu7ioN is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
08-13-2012, 01:50 PM
  #10
I Believe
Registered User
 
I Believe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,859
vCash: 500
I think it's too much for Luongo and not enough for Ryan. Also we should really keep our 1st rounder next year

I Believe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-13-2012, 01:50 PM
  #11
mightyquack
Rekordtorschütze!
 
mightyquack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Perth, WA
Country: Germany
Posts: 17,341
vCash: 500
Anaheim laughs at Toronto

mightyquack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-13-2012, 01:51 PM
  #12
EvoLu7ioN
Registered User
 
EvoLu7ioN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 2,131
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leaffan16 View Post
No to each deal, we already have a 6.5 dman and then you want to put another, and then you put Komi in the top 4? You must not know what a salary cap is because we are getting 16

Well than Komisarek can be buried in the minors.

EvoLu7ioN is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
08-13-2012, 01:51 PM
  #13
AtlantaWhaler
Moderator
Thrash/Preds/Sabres
 
AtlantaWhaler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Country: United States
Posts: 11,330
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by mightyquack View Post
Anaheim laughs at Toronto
Yeah...it's going to take more to land Ryan.

AtlantaWhaler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-13-2012, 01:52 PM
  #14
Thee GM
TheMostInterestingGM
 
Thee GM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 924
vCash: 500
You are under rating Bobby Ryan!! In any potential Ryan deal a first rounder and a mid-level NHL player needs to be included. I would also think that Vancouver would want a bit more out of a Luongo deal, Lupul's still's a question mark at this point.

Thee GM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-13-2012, 01:52 PM
  #15
EvoLu7ioN
Registered User
 
EvoLu7ioN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 2,131
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by InfinityIggy View Post
Uhm, so let me get this straight. The Leafs are going to build a contender, and then the Flames trade Bouw for their 1st, because it might be a lottery pick?

What?

Either they are a lottery team or they are a contender, make up your mind. Calgary says hell no to this.
Please read before posting.

I clearly stated you trade for Bouwmeester first, before you turn into a playoff team with the other trades.

EvoLu7ioN is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
08-13-2012, 01:53 PM
  #16
SingnBluesOnBroadway
Retired
 
SingnBluesOnBroadway's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: NYC
Country: United States
Posts: 29,804
vCash: 500
Awards:
I'm not going to address the value of these deals, but assuming they were made, I'm not sure they make the Leafs a legit Eastern threat.

__________________
SingnBluesOnBroadway is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-13-2012, 01:55 PM
  #17
EvoLu7ioN
Registered User
 
EvoLu7ioN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 2,131
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Krishna View Post
Anaheim says no.. They want a player who can play the #2 center spot
Then add Kadri and try and extract a winger from Van or Calgary.

EvoLu7ioN is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
08-13-2012, 01:56 PM
  #18
OilerTyler
Fire Lowe
 
OilerTyler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Edmonton
Country: Canada
Posts: 10,669
vCash: 50
Calgary and Anaheim laugh at Toronto.

Vancouver takes it and runs.

OilerTyler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-13-2012, 01:57 PM
  #19
Click Here
You know you want to
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: 404 Not Found
Country: Sweden
Posts: 3,084
vCash: 50
komisarek for malkin. steckel for lundqvist.

Click Here is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-13-2012, 01:59 PM
  #20
Athlétique_Canadien
Registered User
 
Athlétique_Canadien's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Halifax, NS
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,542
vCash: 500
Leafs would look awfully silly if the 2013 first rounder became MacKinnon.

Athlétique_Canadien is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-13-2012, 02:05 PM
  #21
Ceremony
Moderator
Transcendence
 
Ceremony's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 72,223
vCash: 499
And so continues the proud Toronto tradition of trading 1st round picks that eventually become the #1 centre they've needed for several years, yes?

Ceremony is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
08-13-2012, 02:05 PM
  #22
sully1410
Registered User
 
sully1410's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Turner Valley, Alta.
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,126
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Athlétique_Canadien View Post
Leafs would look awfully silly if the 2013 first rounder became MacKinnon.
They've done it before with a pick that turned into Seguin.

sully1410 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-13-2012, 02:07 PM
  #23
Leafs For Life*
Nothing
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 6,636
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Athlétique_Canadien View Post
Leafs would look awfully silly if the 2013 first rounder became MacKinnon.
Feaster would rather draft another Jankowski, the kid that will be the best player out of the draft. (Skip to 5:50)

Leafs For Life* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-13-2012, 02:09 PM
  #24
Turrican*
Not a homer
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Stabmonton
Country: Canada
Posts: 5,960
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Athlétique_Canadien View Post
Leafs would look awfully silly if the 2013 first rounder became MacKinnon.
They're used to it.
If Seguin+Hamilton didn't phase them, Mackinnon won't either.

Turrican* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
08-13-2012, 02:10 PM
  #25
Whydidijoin*
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 2,812
vCash: 500
Bouwmeester probably costs more than that, and we don't need him anyway.

Why do we trade all that for Ryan, and then trade away Lupul (in a deal that is WAY too much for Luongo), who is just as good if not better and a better fit.

We trade our goalie, defenseman, and winger, for a goalie, defenseman and winger, who cumulatively aren't much better, if at all, and give up our 1st round pick, and other picks and prospects.

Makes no sense.

Whydidijoin* is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:07 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2014 All Rights Reserved.