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Three trades that turn Toronto into a legit eastern threat

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08-13-2012, 02:57 PM
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I clearly stated you trade for Bouwmeester first, before you turn into a playoff team with the other trades.
Haha are you kidding? It's not that easy to fool an NHL GM, even Feaster. If the Leafs want Bouwmeester that means they would be trying to turn themselves into a contender, and thus that first rounder pick being offered instantly becomes less valuable as soon as you offer it. The Flames would need a prospect and don't need a younger goalie, so that's a no from them.

As mentioned by others Anaheim says no too. It's not that easy.

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08-13-2012, 02:59 PM
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Toronto got Joffrey Lupul and Jake Gardiner for a guy the Ducks had ownership of until they left him unrestricted and free to test the FA waters.
Why doesn't this trade get more play? Has got to be one of the best trades in the league since the lockout.

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08-13-2012, 03:00 PM
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Small moves will make big impacts.

That is all.

Which might just mean moving some bodies to open up roster spots for hungry youth.

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08-13-2012, 03:01 PM
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Maybe a different choice of words would be a little more appropriate. Toronto got Joffrey Lupul and Jake Gardiner for a guy the Ducks had ownership of until they left him unrestricted and free to test the FA waters. Is Toronto laughing at Anaheim? On a scale of 1-10, how awful was Anaheim in managing those assets?
And when is the last time Toronto finished ahead of Anaheim in the standings?

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So Komisarek is simultaneously playing in the top 4 D and being stashed in the minors to save cap room?

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Brad Ross
Ben Scrivens


Shawn Horcoff
Nik Khabibulin

=instant Mackinnon

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Finger, Kulemin, and Reimer for Bobbie Lou.

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08-13-2012, 03:06 PM
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Uhm, so let me get this straight. The Leafs are going to build a contender, and then the Flames trade Bouw for their 1st, because it might be a lottery pick?

What?

Either they are a lottery team or they are a contender, make up your mind. Calgary says hell no to this.
Get out of my head!

But yeah, no way in hell.

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Vancouver doesn't need Lupul or Biggs

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08-13-2012, 03:14 PM
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Brad Ross
Ben Scrivens


Shawn Horcoff
Nik Khabibulin

=instant Mackinnon
Khabibulin is better than anything in net Toronto has. Horcoff would slot in nicely for Toronto as 3rd line center. I don't see Scrivens or Ross doing anything to make a difference. It wouldn't make Toronto better but it wouldn't make them worse either.

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The only deal id do as a leaf fan is the 2nd but that one the ducks won't. The rest are beyond terrible.

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08-13-2012, 03:16 PM
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Bobby Ryan is 25 and has 4 straight 30 goal seasons. He's closer to Kessel's level than Lupul is to him. Remember Lupul in Anaheim? He couldn't find ice time behind Perry, Ryan, and Selanne on the wings already.
And Ryan would still get 2nd-line ice time in Toronto, because he wouldn't take the #1 RW spot from Kessel. It doesn't matter what Lupul was in Anaheim. They have already admitted they misused him.

On Toronto, Lupul is a PPG player, and a perfect compliment for Kessel. We gain no benefit by trading Lupul for Ryan. It actually makes us worse off because we trade a top LW for a top RW spot that is already filled. Not to mention that Lupul accomplished more last year than Ryan did in any year.

I don't care if Ryan is worth more than Lupul. It makes no sense to make that trade.

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I'm not a Toronto fan, so no bias here. Just thought up a way to make TO a much better team next year without losing a ton of youth.

Trade 1:
Toronto 2013 first rounder + Reimer for Jay Boumeester + Calgary midgrade prospect. Make this deal first before other improvements, Calgary accepts as the pick could be lottery and they need a younger goalie.

Trade 2:
Jake Gardiner + Toronto 2013 2nd rounder + Calgary mid-grade prospect for Bobby Ryan. Gardiner's a stud, but with Boumeester incoming and Reilly in the wings he's expendable, and Ryan is a beast and still young.

Trade 3:
Lupul + Biggs for Luongo. Vancouver is in win now mode, this provides them with a playmaking winger to play with Kes and booth, and a nice prospect too.



Top 6
Kessel - JVR - Ryan
Kadri - Grabovski - Kulemin

Top 4 D
Bouwmeester - Phaneuf
Reilly - Komisarek

Goal
Luongo
Scrivens
So Toronto ends up trading Gardiner, Lupul, 2013 1st, 2013 2nd, Biggs and more, and somehow we still don't end up with a true #1C?

Seems like a good plan to me

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08-13-2012, 03:17 PM
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Why doesn't this trade get more play? Has got to be one of the best trades in the league since the lockout.
Because Toronto made it. Only trades that Leafs (may have) lost make the news and popular discussion around here.

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08-13-2012, 03:17 PM
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If the Leafs loss Gardiner, Lupul, Biggs and MacKinnon there better be a #1 C coming back.

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Finger, Kulemin, and Reimer for Bobbie Lou.


We don't even have Finger anymore.

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And Ryan would still get 2nd-line ice time in Toronto, because he wouldn't take the #1 RW spot from Kessel. It doesn't matter what Lupul was in Anaheim. They have already admitted they misused him.

On Toronto, Lupul is a PPG player, and a perfect compliment for Kessel. We gain no benefit by trading Lupul for Ryan. It actually makes us worse off because we trade a top LW for a top RW spot that is already filled. Not to mention that Lupul accomplished more last year than Ryan did in any year.

I don't care if Ryan is worth more than Lupul. It makes no sense to make that trade.
Let's see Lupul have another good year before he's declared Joffrey "PPG" Lupul from now until the end of time. Lupul also played in the defense be darned Eastern Conference last year while Ryan played in the everyone drop to the goal line to block a shot Western Conference.

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I'm sorry, but if JVR is your first line center, let alone a center, you are not that much of a threat.
Agreed.

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Did you mean a legit threat in the East for the 15th spot?

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The 1st and 3rd proposals are probably close in value IMO. The 2nd one sees Anaheim taking it in the ass.

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Leafs would look awfully silly if the 2013 first rounder became MacKinnon.
Let's be honest, no team with Luongo and Kessel is going to finish dead last. Those two guys and a half decent defense might be able to drag a team to the playoffs ala Canucks 2006-07.

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And when is the last time Toronto finished ahead of Anaheim in the standings?
I don't know, don't care to look it up. I like the Ducks and root for them whenever they're in the playoffs. I was just pointing out that posters poor choice of words.

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Did you mean a legit threat in the East for the 15th spot?
You live in a glass house, don't throw stones

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Because Toronto made it. Only trades that Leafs (may have) lost make the news and popular discussion around here.
Bingo!

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I don't know, don't care to look it up. I like the Ducks and root for them whenever they're in the playoffs. I was just pointing out that posters poor choice of words.



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Did you see that lineup?

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Since when does Calgary need another goaltender who has not much value right now?

Want to fix the leafs start with getting rid of Burke. Just don't replace him with the moron who started this thread.

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