I haven't collected in years, but curious about guys that have random cards signed by players on their own. In other words, not the autographed cards the sell in packs, just taking a normal card from a set, and having the player sign it. Value increased, decreased, etc.???
A swedish collector got a whole set (1996-97 Finnish Sisu Redline) autoed in this way. It took him 14 years to track down every player in the set, send the card to him and get it back autographed.
Sadly, two players had already died before they could sign the cards, but it is as complete as it ever will be and it's truly remarkable collection:
A swedish collector got a whole set (1996-97 Finnish Sisu Redline) autoed in this way. It took him 14 years to track down every player in the set, send the card to him and get it back autographed.
Sadly, two players had already died before they could sign the cards, but it is as complete as it ever will be and it's truly remarkable collection:
Supply and demand. 100,000 of something isn't really that much when 1,000,000 people want it. That is why the value stays high.
Modern gimmick rookie cards lose value over time because there might be 10,000 in circulation but three years later only 1,000 people really want them enough to pay gimmick prices.
About 20 years ago, I was lucky enough to get a bag of cards from my parents. They bought it at a yard sale for $5...just a bunch of random cards in a grocery bag. Inside that bag was a Messier, Bourque and Brett Hull Rookie cards!!! Still have them today!
Not sure of the amount of cards I have, but I assume it's 10,000-15,000.
Most valuable ones are probably a Gretz rookie (x2) and a Marcel Dionne rookie. Some other older ones like a Gilbert Perrault rookie and some others I don't remember anymore. I basically have every card from 80-81 to about 1992 when I stopped collecting. I haven't even looked at them in years and am completely unaware of their current value other than the fact it's much lower then when cards had a high perceived value 20 years ago.
Last edited by Smelling Salt: 08-13-2012 at 12:35 PM.
Supply and demand. 100,000 of something isn't really that much when 1,000,000 people want it. That is why the value stays high.
Modern gimmick rookie cards lose value over time because there might be 10,000 in circulation but three years later only 1,000 people really want them enough to pay gimmick prices.
That was true...15 years ago.
Now that the escalation has slowed down and it's mainly Upper Deck and one other company with a smaller market base, it's no longer true.
For example, SP Authentic's autographed Future Watch RCs have stayed at the /999 quantity for nearly 10 years now and the cards hold their value overall. Individual prices may go down as player performance declines or better players emerge. Kind of like how Tom Barrasso RCs are worth just a couple bucks.
But having a card with an on-card signature of a great player, those cards don't go down much, especially rookie year signatures.
I know you have your own personal agenda here but the facts don't support your case. The era of 90s escalation where each year the manufacturers made cards across the board artificially rarer and rarer thus making each previous years' cards worth less and less is long over.
Heck even those 90s cards, especially the toughest ones, have rebounded in value.
Unless it looks, or is graded poorly you can get a couple hundred bucks for it.
All Gretzky RCs are worth something because it's Gretzky. It's just worth insanely more if your card is in high grade, especially if it's been slabbed in high grade. High grade slabbed cards are the vintage version of low print run modern cards.
All Gretzky RCs are worth something because it's Gretzky. It's just worth insanely more if your card is in high grade, especially if it's been slabbed in high grade. High grade slabbed cards are the vintage version of low print run modern cards.
That's what I'm hoping for.
I have a 7.5 Gretzky rookie. Graded by Beckett and not one of the less trusted ones.
Yeah that still blows my mind. All those great 90's rookies (i.e. Foppa, Jagr, Lidstrom, Fedorov, Jagr, Bure, and Lindros) and their cards are worth peanuts.
I was reading in an issue of beckett that one of the writers broke a box of something like 92-93 upper deck. In that one box he pulled 19 Niklas Lidstrom rookies. If I opened a box of series 1 and pulled 19 RNH young guns I'd take a month off work.
Any iconic card like the old Pinnacle Masks Dufex cards are still good...they were one per three cases.
But any of the super rare cards, especially Upper Deck, are still worth money. For example the 90s Hart Hopefuls die cut parallel /100, all of those cards are worth $50 for junk players and couple hundred for top guys. There's a thread on the hockey card forum I'm on where guys are tracking those...the Messier (NYR) sold for $90 and a Lindros for $120 before shipping costs.
There are cards /100 being made today. I have a SP Authentic Limited Mark Messier from a few years back. I'd be happy to get $9 for it let alone $90.
If you try to buy any of the top inserts, much rarer than 1 per case, those are all still good money and often sell for double or triple Beckett. For example, the Stanley Cup Hologram, Hull Heroes auto, Bobby Orr Score auto, Patrick Roy Pro Set meneur auto, etc.
Now that the boys of the 90s have grown up and have good paying jobs, they're going back and buying the cards they could only dream of opening then. I'm one of those guys.
I was reading in an issue of beckett that one of the writers broke a box of something like 92-93 upper deck. In that one box he pulled 19 Niklas Lidstrom rookies. If I opened a box of series 1 and pulled 19 RNH young guns I'd take a month off work.
I did something similar a couple months back when I picked up a box of old Upper Deck cards from the early 90s and pulled four Doug Weight rookie cards from the same pack. Still fun opening them up and seeing what you get but it puts things into perspective when you consider the early 90s cards market.
Ah, Hockey Cards. Back when Crosby came into the league, I stocked up on a lot of his rookie cards. I essentially have all of his 'good' rookie cards aside from The Cup set which is his most valuable money wise.
My prize possessions are his rookie cards from the Upper Deck Ice set. I have one graded 9.5 BGS and another that's graded 10 BGS. From the last time I checked, the BGS 10 is 1 of 4 in existence. I'll be hanging onto that one.
From 1990-1992 I collected hockey cards, they got to expensive for me so I quit buying them. One piece of advice is to keep them in good condition so that in 25-30 years you can get some money for them.
I hate to say it but you probably won't. Upper Deck actually ruined the value of their own cards by producing WAY too many. The first set was 90-91 and you can STILL buy an unopened which has 25 boxes for under 200 bucks. Obviously nobody would buy that, but if there are still that many unoowned cases imagine how saturated the market is with these cards. There was a bit of interest a few years ago because of grading. People were picking up boxes in hopes of getting a card with a grade of 9.5 or 10.
I hate to say it but you probably won't. Upper Deck actually ruined the value of their own cards by producing WAY too many. The first set was 90-91 and you can STILL buy an unopened which has 25 boxes for under 200 bucks. Obviously nobody would buy that, but if there are still that many unoowned cases imagine how saturated the market is with these cards. There was a bit of interest a few years ago because of grading. People were picking up boxes in hopes of getting a card with a grade of 9.5 or 10.
The funny thing is this is already happening in a sense. While a Teemu Selanne RC sells for like a buck, a graded BGS 9.5 of the same card sells for like 50 bucks.
