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08-13-2012, 08:05 PM
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Mancrush proposal: NYI and PHX

to PHX: Ryan Strome, Griffin Reinhart, Michael Grabner

to NYI: Oliver Ekman-Larsson

I'm sure both sides won't like it. But I get half-mast when I think about OEL in an Isles sweater so I figured I'd give it a shot.

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08-13-2012, 08:08 PM
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Sorry but OEL isn't on the market

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to PHX: Ryan Strome, Griffin Reinhart, Michael Grabner

to NYI: Oliver Ekman-Larsson

I'm sure both sides won't like it. But I get half-mast when I think about OEL in an Isles sweater so I figured I'd give it a shot.
Overpayment for the value of OEL, Underpayment to get OEL out of PHX. Potential 1C, #2D and 2W for a great D

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i am so high on oel but not as high as i am on grabner rienhart and strome combined, make it 2 out of those 3 isles and i would flip a coin on it it is so close


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Sorry but OEL isn't on the market
strome, rienhart, and grabner are very far from being "on the market" as well

strome has #1 center potential and reinhart has #1 d potential and both of those are a long ways, from being considered unlikely and grabner is one of the top 3 fastest players in the league and his first 2 seasons can be interpreted anyway but there is no arguing that he is on a very good contract for the next 4 seasons no matter what he becomes

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Too much for OEL. I'd like to see how Reinhart does in the NHL first.

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If phoenix doesn't take that I'd be shocked.

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Overpayment for the value of OEL, Underpayment to get OEL out of PHX. Potential 1C, #2D and 2W for a great D
This is what I was thinking. Almost think they'd have a better chance hoping he hits RFA and giving him a monster contract. Even then, though, I can't see PHX not matching.

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08-13-2012, 08:24 PM
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if phoenix throws in yandle id be willing to throw in nino, mayfield, and de haan

so to the isles
Yandle
OEL

to the coyotes
Strome (isles lottery pick 2011)
Rienhart (isles lottery pick 2012)
Grabner (calder nominee that had a sophomore slump)
Nino (isles lottery pick 2010)
Mayfield (huge right handed dman with #2 potentl with a couple years left in college)
de haan (isles first round pick 2009 and ahl all-star dman)

woah i didn't realize how much of the isles rebuild yet to make the tam would be going the other direction but i would still do it

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Sure OEL is a stud, but that's an overpayment that I wouldn't do personally. Yotes take this and run.

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08-13-2012, 09:25 PM
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Nah, OEL is not that good. Although that is an overpayment... Yotes would probably decline.

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08-13-2012, 09:27 PM
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why in the hell would the Isles give up SO MUCH for him??

I mean, Reinhart could potentially become just as good as OEL in a few years, and then you add two other really good young forwards with great potential...

no thanks

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08-13-2012, 09:45 PM
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Why would the Yotes say yes? Of course everyone will come in here and call me a homer but everyone here over values prospects and picks over actual NHL players.

No deal from the Yotes, Strome Reinhart are nice but only prospects OEL is a # 1 d-man who was relied heavily on and took us to the WCF.

From a value standpoint its okay not great, no need for Reinhart we have Gormely, Rundblad, Stone, Summers, Murphy etc.

Strome is nice but 0 NHL games.

Grabner is a 2nd liner tweener.

Take out Reinhart add a pick for Yandle, id do:

Yandle

For

Strome
1st/2nd
Grabner.


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If phoenix doesn't take that I'd be shocked.
If I'm Phoenix, I wouldn't do it. I like Rhino but OEL > both right now and the future.

PS. I also really dislike Strome.

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if phoenix throws in yandle id be willing to throw in nino, mayfield, and de haan

so to the isles
Yandle
OEL

to the coyotes
Strome (isles lottery pick 2011)
Rienhart (isles lottery pick 2012)
Grabner (calder nominee that had a sophomore slump)
Nino (isles lottery pick 2010)
Mayfield (huge right handed dman with #2 potentl with a couple years left in college)
de haan (isles first round pick 2009 and ahl all-star dman)

woah i didn't realize how much of the isles rebuild yet to make the tam would be going the other direction but i would still do it

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if phoenix throws in yandle id be willing to throw in nino, mayfield, and de haan

so to the isles
Yandle
OEL

to the coyotes
Strome (isles lottery pick 2011)
Rienhart (isles lottery pick 2012)
Grabner (calder nominee that had a sophomore slump)
Nino (isles lottery pick 2010)
Mayfield (huge right handed dman with #2 potentl with a couple years left in college)
de haan (isles first round pick 2009 and ahl all-star dman)

woah i didn't realize how much of the isles rebuild yet to make the tam would be going the other direction but i would still do it
Sure why not thats a great deal for us, add in a 7th and we'll throw in Gormely and Visentin too!

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08-13-2012, 10:22 PM
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OEL is a player.

The package offered might be that type of player. I wouldn't trade him unless it was a packaged that made me think I have to do this.

This package doesn't do that. Its full of potential that likely wont pan out.

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Since when is OEL worth two top 5 picks and a guy in Grabner who at the very least is a 15 goal/good PK and at best is a 30 goal scorer/good PK guy? Thats horrible at best. I wouldnt trade Strome or Reinhart for him straight up. Their upsides are higher imo. OEM is here now which appealing I guess but Id rather wait for a potentially better player.

If we say all parties involved reach their max upside:
OEL becomes an all-star dman 45-50 point guy
Strome becomes Martin St Louis as a C
Reinhart becomes a physical 45-50 point guy and all star...not really possible to figure out his max upside right now since hes still a pup.
Grabner gains consistency as a 25-goal/50-point guy.

Thats a lot to give up for any one player thats not a proven all star guy.

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??? The Isles need depth & the Coyotes need to keep their future best player, so why again are these 2 teams making this trade?

If the Isles really want to trade for Oliver Ekman-Larsson, then the only player to entice them to would be Tavares and the Islanders won't bother. To get a young stud like OEL, a team can't offer up anything less than the best player involved and the team would be trading for Oliver's ceiling and his ELC. Another proposal thinking that a team can get what ever player they want without thinking if the players involve will fit with their new team and where that leaves their respective teams. The Coyotes have a hole at center, not as big as years past and at the moment Stome doesn't fill it. Everybody else was valued as compensation and yet OEL is worth more than that compensation would mean to the Coyotes. Well, I try to explain it as best as I can and don't understand why the Islanders would offer it in the 1st place...

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to PHX: Ryan Strome, Griffin Reinhart, Michael Grabner

to NYI: Oliver Ekman-Larsson

I'm sure both sides won't like it. But I get half-mast when I think about OEL in an Isles sweater so I figured I'd give it a shot.
No thanks from Phoenix.

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I wouldnt trade Strome or Reinhart for him straight up. Their upsides are higher imo. OEM is here now which appealing I guess but Id rather wait for a potentially better player.
LOL. You're joking right? Please tell me your joking. He is a #1D. Plus Strome is overrated and hasn't even played a game in the NHL. PS: It's not OEM.

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Since when is OEL worth two top 5 picks and a guy in Grabner who at the very least is a 15 goal/good PK and at best is a 30 goal scorer/good PK guy? Thats horrible at best. I wouldnt trade Strome or Reinhart for him straight up. Their upsides are higher imo. OEM is here now which appealing I guess but Id rather wait for a potentially better player.
You sir are wacky.

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Huuuuuge overpayment. Even if you have to overpay for OEL this is still too muh.

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Since when is OEL worth two top 5 picks and a guy in Grabner who at the very least is a 15 goal/good PK and at best is a 30 goal scorer/good PK guy? Thats horrible at best. I wouldnt trade Strome or Reinhart for him straight up. Their upsides are higher imo. OEM is here now which appealing I guess but Id rather wait for a potentially better player.

If we say all parties involved reach their max upside:
OEL becomes an all-star dman 45-50 point guy
Strome becomes Martin St Louis as a C
Reinhart becomes a physical 45-50 point guy and all star...not really possible to figure out his max upside right now since hes still a pup.
Grabner gains consistency as a 25-goal/50-point guy.

Thats a lot to give up for any one player thats not a proven all star guy.

This is just laughable. If Reinhardt has 50 point upside, OEL has 90 point upside. Sure all these guys COULD be good, but OEL is already a legit #1 dman with the potential for multiple Norris'. Phoenix doesn't need a bunch of good players, they need a franchise player... Which they have... And won't be trading

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doesn NYI want anyone from the leafs for that package?

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LOL. You're joking right? Please tell me your joking. He is a #1D. Plus Strome is overrated and hasn't even played a game in the NHL. PS: It's not OEM.
How is Strome is overrated?

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doesn NYI want anyone from the leafs for that package?
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