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08-13-2012, 04:31 PM
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I thought Brule lacked the hockey sense to either score a tonne of points or be a defensive specialist. All that speed, great shot, and physicality didn't mean much by the time he made it to the NHL level when he constantly made bad decisions with the puck.

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This is pretty funny.

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Strange, link works fine for me. Basicaly it is someone investigating the guy and it comes up that he is most likely a 17 year old high school kid. Mods, if I am breaking any rules here, please delete.

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I thought Brule lacked the hockey sense to either score a tonne of points or be a defensive specialist. All that speed, great shot, and physicality didn't mean much by the time he made it to the NHL level when he constantly made bad decisions with the puck.
His passing always left a lot to be desired as well IMO.

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08-13-2012, 08:42 PM
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I won't name him but I heard from a reliable Oilers source out and about this weekend who said the Oilers are really targeting a high end RFA. I am guessing a trade.

MDZ?? Just a guess.

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For what I've been told... Which meshes with what Bluechip is saying think forward not defence.

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08-13-2012, 09:00 PM
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Tiny list then if it's a high profile forward.

Evander Kane
Jaime Benn

Still small if you add in potential defensemen

PK Subban
Michael Del Zotto
John Carlson
Maybe Dmitry Kulikov(Oilers really liked him in his draft year)
Comedy Cody Franson option

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Wouldn't that imply Tambo would actually have to make a decision?

Maybe Rick O. should lie to him and tell him that he is on the clock for a trade this summer? Seems he is fine when on the draft clock, maybe he will pull the trigger.

Then again, you always wonder if you let him reign free does he do something incredibly stupid?

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Tiny list then if it's a high profile forward.

Evander Kane
Jaime Benn
Jamie Benn would be an absolute dream as a second line centreman but I can't see Dallas moving him in a million years.

I'm not sure if I'd do it but it might be interesting if Winnipeg was frustrated with Kane and came calling for Yakupov. Kane is a natural left winger which fits better if Hemsky is seen as a long-term player in the organization and he also has size which the Oilers desperately need. It sounds like Winnipeg is high on Burmistrov so perhaps Yakupov would be a good fit on his line?

Again, I'm not sure if I'd do it but it's something worth considering. It does solve a lot of the size issues in Edmonton's top 6 forward group.

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If it's a forward, the only two who make sense are Benn and O'Reilly.

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Jamie Benn would be an absolute dream as a second line centreman but I can't see Dallas moving him in a million years.

I'm not sure if I'd do it but it might be interesting if Winnipeg was frustrated with Kane and came calling for Yakupov. Kane is a natural left winger which fits better if Hemsky is seen as a long-term player in the organization and he also has size which the Oilers desperately need. It sounds like Winnipeg is high on Burmistrov so perhaps Yakupov would be a good fit on his line?

Again, I'm not sure if I'd do it but it's something worth considering. It does solve a lot of the size issues in Edmonton's top 6 forward group.

Hall-RNH-Eberle
Kane-Gagner-Hemsky

The only thing that would worry is the fact the Jets are trading him. He is their franchise forward, it's a pretty big red flag that there are some hidden issues if they ever do deal him, unless it is purely money.

Either way, I can't see the Jets having enough leverage to pry a #1 overall pick for Kane, even though I love his game.

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For what I've been told... Which meshes with what Bluechip is saying think forward not defence.
That would mean ROR, Benn, or E. Kane IMO.

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If it's a forward, the only two who make sense are Benn and O'Reilly.
O'Reilly would be a great fit, but judging by his season last year and his age, I would imagine they would dump Stastny for anything they could get before they ever deal O'Reilly away, unless he wants silly money.

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If it's a forward, the only two who make sense are Benn and O'Reilly.
E. Kane makes sense as well if Hall is to move to C. That said the guy with the lowest trade value of the 3 is ROR IMO. Benn you'd think would cost an arm and a leg to acquire if Dallas felt forced to move him. E. Kane would also command a large return. What could we expect to give up for O'Reilly? Gagner + what?

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O'Reilly would be a great fit, but judging by his season last year and his age, I would imagine they would dump Stastny for anything they could get before they ever deal O'Reilly away, unless he wants silly money.
You'd have to think that there'd be a reason or reasons to move one of Benn, E. Kane, or ROR. Whether it's monetary, the player not getting along with management, or they decide to pull a Justin Schultz and really want to play here (imagine if that happened twice in one offseason ) there would have to be a good reason for these type's of players to be moved IMO. Of course the other reason would be a gross overpay, and I don't see that as a possibility at this point.

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Let's say hypothetically it was Benn (IMO the crown jewel of the 3) would we be able to pull off a trade that would also see us landing Fistric?

It would have to be a big trade IMO, something like:

To Dallas: Gagner, Hemsky/Paajarvi, 2013 1st, Teubert and one of Hartikainen or Pitlick. And IMO we'd probably still need to add.

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If the rumours are true and it's indeed a forward, I REALLY hope that it's Jamie Benn.

Man would that be sweet. Perfect 2nd line centre.

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If the rumours are true and it's indeed a forward, I REALLY hope that it's Jamie Benn.

Man would that be sweet. Perfect 2nd line centre.
IMO Benn would be too good to be true, if we could pull it off without giving up one of the big 4 that would be insane.

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Let's say hypothetically it was Benn (IMO the crown jewel of the 3) would we be able to pull off a trade that would also see us landing Fistric?

It would have to be a big trade IMO, something like:

To Dallas: Gagner, Hemsky/Paajarvi, 2013 1st, Teubert and one of Hartikainen or Pitlick. And IMO we'd probably still need to add.
I just can't see any incentive for Dallas to trade Benn for a package like that. Would you trade Hall for Ott (I know he's already gone), Ryder, 2013 1st, Nemeth and B. Ritchie? That's a roughly similar package and Hall/Benn have very similar view in my opinion.

If Benn becomes available, the starting piece would again likely have to be Yakupov or one of Hall/Eberle. I can't see why Dallas would even entertain a massive quantity for quality deal where the quantity isn't even really all that valuable.

However, just like for Kane, I would entertain moving Yakupov simply because Benn is a better fit as a second line centreman with size.

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I just can't see any incentive for Dallas to trade Benn for a package like that. Would you trade Hall for Ott (I know he's already gone), Ryder, 2013 1st, Nemeth and B. Ritchie? That's a roughly similar package and Hall/Benn have very similar view in my opinion.

If Benn becomes available, the starting piece would again likely have to be Yakupov or one of Hall/Eberle. I can't see why Dallas would even entertain a massive quantity for quality deal where the quantity isn't even really all that valuable.

However, just like for Kane, I would entertain moving Yakupov simply because Benn is a better fit as a second line centreman with size.
It's all about the reason that Dallas would move him, if it's because he doesn't want to sign, IMO his price takes a hit. If he's not available and we ask him then naturally their GM says one of our big 4 and maybe more. I agree that the package above isn't great, but since we're just spit balling, this is my take on it.

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It's all about the reason that Dallas would move him, if it's because he doesn't want to sign, IMO his price takes a hit. If he's not available and we ask him then naturally their GM says one of our big 4 and maybe more. I agree that the package above isn't great, but since we're just spit balling, this is my take on it.
If he did become available though, I think he's a player that almost every GM in the league would make a call on. If we somehow managed to avoid trading one of the big four, I think we're talking about assets like our first rounder and Klefbom going the other way but I still think that gets beaten by any number of teams. What team wouldn't give up an arm and a leg for a big, proven scoring centreman who is still a few years from his prime?

I'm loving how every other fan base thinks ANY trade with Edmonton needs to have one of the big four going the other way but in this case, I can't see how that isn't true.

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IMO Benn would be too good to be true, if we could pull it off without giving up one of the big 4 that would be insane.
How could we possibly add a 23 year-old allstar without moving Yakupov?

I know we would never move RNH, Hall is the heart and soul of the team, and Eberle is potentially already better than Benn, at least offensively, at an even younger age.

IMO, it would cost Gagner + Klefbom + 2013 1st + something else of value, and even then I don't know they make that trade without asking for Yakupov.

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If he did become available though, I think he's a player that almost every GM in the league would make a call on. If we somehow managed to avoid trading one of the big four, I think we're talking about assets like our first rounder and Klefbom going the other way but I still think that gets beaten by any number of teams. What team wouldn't give up an arm and a leg for a big, proven scoring centreman who is still a few years from his prime?

I'm loving how every other fan base thinks ANY trade with Edmonton needs to have one of the big four going the other way but in this case, I can't see how that isn't true.
Let's say that he makes it clear that he wants to play here and only here. If/when his agent tells other teams this wouldn't it lower his trade value? I'm speaking hypothetically here, but do you remember the crap that we got back for Weight when he told us either St. Louis or Detroit? Klefbom may very well have to be on the table, hell maybe our 2014 1st instead, that said I could see him moved for less than one of the big 4 under specific circumstances.

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Let's say that he makes it clear that he wants to play here and only here. If/when his agent tells other teams this wouldn't it lower his trade value? I'm speaking hypothetically here, but do you remember the crap that we got back for Weight when he told us either St. Louis or Detroit? Klefbom may very well have to be on the table, hell maybe our 2014 1st instead, that said I could see him moved for less than one of the big 4 under specific circumstances.
I suppose that's true but now we're looking at pretty insane hypotheticals. Nothing in Benn's past has even hinted that he has a desire to play in Edmonton so I don't really think it's realistic to consider that an option.

Let's be honest here: Justin Schultz was one of the first big fish we've nabbed in the last two decades and I still think the biggest factor behind his decision was playing on a young team where he could get playing time and be allowed to make some mistakes.

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