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Max Pacioretty signed for 6 years!! ($27M/$4.5M per)

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08-13-2012, 10:51 PM
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08-13-2012, 10:57 PM
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Like it or not this is a GREAT deal. His style of play and attitude make this contract even better. He is at least a 50 point player consistently IMO. He is a future leader on this team if not already and has the heart of a lion. Its not just numbers its everything he brings.

I understand what your saying and completely know what you mean but this isn't michael grabner we are talking about. Max is more than a one season wonder. I think he will improve even more and make this contract even sweeter. Thats just me.
I don't disagree but max had 1 good season, so until he does more he's got 1 good year under his belt.

Don't take this as a sign I'm against the deal. Hell No. I love it. I'm merely being objective. Some believe he'll continuously improve and be a 40 goal guy. Maybe not, maybe he'll be a 30-30 guy and be worth 4.5-5. Maybe he'll hit 25-25 and be worth 4 mil. At the price, it's really not a bad risk but it may not be 'steal of the century' as some are claiming. So far, it looks fantastic and I'm under the assumption it will continue to look that way. Like I said, i'm just throwing something beyond the "BRB need to change my pants" comments.

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08-13-2012, 11:00 PM
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I don't disagree but max had 1 good season, so until he does more he's got 1 good year under his belt.

Don't take this as a sign I'm against the deal. Hell No. I love it. I'm merely being objective. Some believe he'll continuously improve and be a 40 goal guy. Maybe not, maybe he'll be a 30-30 guy and be worth 4.5-5. Maybe he'll hit 25-25 and be worth 4 mil. At the price, it's really not a bad risk but it may not be 'steal of the century' as some are claiming. So far, it looks fantastic and I'm under the assumption it will continue to look that way. Like I said, i'm just throwing something beyond the "BRB need to change my pants" comments.
You devils advocate you. Well said sir

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08-13-2012, 11:02 PM
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I don't disagree but max had 1 good season, so until he does more he's got 1 good year under his belt.

Don't take this as a sign I'm against the deal. Hell No. I love it. I'm merely being objective. Some believe he'll continuously improve and be a 40 goal guy. Maybe not, maybe he'll be a 30-30 guy and be worth 4.5-5. Maybe he'll hit 25-25 and be worth 4 mil. At the price, it's really not a bad risk but it may not be 'steal of the century' as some are claiming. So far, it looks fantastic and I'm under the assumption it will continue to look that way. Like I said, i'm just throwing something beyond the "BRB need to change my pants" comments.
I'm not wearing any pants. Your move.

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08-13-2012, 11:03 PM
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Good pro active gm'ing right there.
This. Could be one of the NHL's best contracts in a season or two... and has no risk of being one of the worst.

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08-13-2012, 11:08 PM
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I'm a hockey contracts expert and this is a good deal.

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08-13-2012, 11:11 PM
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So worst case scenario its a fair deal.I m going to consider this a very good contract and you do your thing.Party pooper!
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I don't disagree but max had 1 good season, so until he does more he's got 1 good year under his belt.

Don't take this as a sign I'm against the deal. Hell No. I love it. I'm merely being objective. Some believe he'll continuously improve and be a 40 goal guy. Maybe not, maybe he'll be a 30-30 guy and be worth 4.5-5. Maybe he'll hit 25-25 and be worth 4 mil. At the price, it's really not a bad risk but it may not be 'steal of the century' as some are claiming. So far, it looks fantastic and I'm under the assumption it will continue to look that way. Like I said, i'm just throwing something beyond the "BRB need to change my pants" comments.

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08-13-2012, 11:18 PM
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I'm not wearing any pants. Your move.
Never a bad time to work on your stickhandling I guess?

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08-13-2012, 11:19 PM
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Max is overrated, one good year so far. Does it mean he won't get better or at least be consistent? Of course not. His work ethic and attitude lead me to believe he'll at least be a legit top 6 forward through the duration of his contract. It IS still a risk, as with any player to sign someone to a long term deal after a big year. Now...that being said, that contract is ridiculously affordable for what he brings so the risk is minimized. It came out of nowhere but i'm thrilled at the signing.
how is he overrated? what's the context? he was rushed to the NHL but in the last two years he has been on pace - or reached 30+ goals. at the time of the chara incident he projected 28-30 goals as a 22 y.o

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08-13-2012, 11:25 PM
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Obviously, the signing is still pending Dr. Recchi's medial examination of Pacioretty.

But everybody is confident.

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08-13-2012, 11:26 PM
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Can someone tell me if Pacioretty received a NTC with that contract extention...
He did not.

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08-13-2012, 11:32 PM
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Yes, I'm thrilled with this.

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how is he overrated? what's the context? he was rushed to the NHL but in the last two years he has been on pace - or reached 30+ goals. at the time of the chara incident he projected 28-30 goals as a 22 y.o
You realize there's no right answer to this question because even if I present my opinion someone's gonna make a fuss about it. Chris stewart had back to back 28 goal seasons and provided toughness and size in front of the net. Do I anticipate maxpac falling off in the same way? No but pretending his an established premier forward would be wrong. Cheechoo had good years too you know. The context is this, over a full year, he was excellent, lets see him repeat it. Not sure why people get bent out of shape over the obvious.

You guys make it sound like I dislike the guy. I'm just being realistic, it's not flowers and teddy bears all the time. He may become a 25 goal scorer on average or he may hit 40 goals. Why is it out of context to suggest before I label him a perenial 30+ goal scorer he needed to do it over more than 1 year? Please don't reference a half year, he was doing good, but it's still 1.5 years.

This same logic of "constant improvement" describes the AK fallacy. "30 goal scorer" just like max is a future "40 goal scorer". Let him do it first, not sure why it's a debate. It really depends which fan you talk to. Some feel sky is the limit for max and honestly, I don't see it. I'm saying his overrated by those expectations.

The deal itself is fair, if not favours the habs. I said specifically I'm thrilled at the deal so really says everything you need to know in regards to how I percieve him.

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08-13-2012, 11:33 PM
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Seems like Bergevin is a great seller, something we didn't have for a while, management wise... just great for the near future of the franchise, just great !

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Holy crap...that's an AWESOME contract. Well done, Bergevin. I'm excited!

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Maybe he'll hit 25-25 and be worth 4 mil.
A 25-goal scorer of any ilk is worth 5 million plus at this point. Let alone in 2-3 years. Remember, he doesn't even hit 30 until the end.

I think it's going to be very unlikely not to see great value on this contract.

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A 25-goal scorer of any ilk is worth 5 million plus at this point. Let alone in 2-3 years. Remember, he doesn't even hit 30 until the end.

I think it's going to be very unlikely not to see great value on this contract.
I agree its very unlikely this contract turns out anything but great,

As for you replying to 25-25 guys being work 5 mil+:

Jiri Hudler 4 mil per. 25 goals, 25 assists, 50 points.

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08-13-2012, 11:44 PM
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when i received the sms from RDS and saw the habs signed for 6years i was like yayyy subban finally signed but when i saw Max at the end i was like WAAAAAT Lol i love Subban but i been a Pac fan since hes hamilton days when everyone in here kept crying cuz we didnt draft Perron instead and today im damn proud to see Patches signing this long term deal with us specially at this price

ill gladly be wearing my Pacioretty jersey at games for the next 6years !!

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Perfect deal for my favorite hab !!!!

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Patches, Subban, Eller, Galchenyuk, and Price.

If Tinordi, Beaulieu, Collberg and Gallagher reach their potential, we're looking good.

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Woah. Beauty of a cap hit there...

Hopefully he can get Subban signed at a decent deal as well.

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Cant really go wrong with this deal, bergevin nailed it

i really thought max was gonna cost us 6 million plus in 2-3 years. now he wouldnt cost us 6 mill for SEVEN years, its just insane really.

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WOW!!! What a steal!!


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He did not.

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Trading him would be extremely sad but at the same time his trade value must be tremendous.

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Obviously, the signing is still pending Dr. Recchi's medial examination of Pacioretty.

But everybody is confident.
Stole my line

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He did not.

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Yeah but how'll we fit in Frolov, Mr Caisse?

Oh and Patch's just became my favorite Hab. Amongst my (super cool) crew we call him Patches O'Houlihan.

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