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08-14-2012, 06:27 AM
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It doesn't matter how high the garbage gets stacked on top of itself, you're not getting a 1st line center for a pile of garbage.
Nononono, egg them on. Let's see if we can get 10+ pieces for Stastny.

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08-14-2012, 07:06 AM
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The only deal that would be remotely fair is if instead of offering several pieces that are of "meh" value, you address their needs with a solid valuable piece-example, Phaneuf(hopefully he can play left side, like Carlyle thinks). Maybe add Bozak to satisfy all the Avs fans dying to get him(he would be a pretty good third line centre, though).

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08-14-2012, 07:14 AM
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Stuart Percy that's the new twist in this offer. I don't like change.

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Stuart Percy that's the new twist in this offer. I don't like change.
somebody had to replace scrivens since we resigned giguere

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Doesn't make sense for Colorado plus Stastny isn't our 3C.
This deal is horrible; I am not trying to defend it. But my question is, who is your #3C? O'Reilly? Duchene? Has to be one of them if it is not Stastny.

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08-14-2012, 07:29 AM
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somebody had to replace scrivens since we resigned giguere
I think av fans should petition to have the Luongo threads reopened. It's unfair to have the entire leafs fanbase focusing their attention on one player.

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08-14-2012, 07:41 AM
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You know each time I see this, I know Toronto is going for one of our centres. I just wish they'd try for Mitchell once and awhile you know. Break it up a bit and be original.

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08-14-2012, 07:54 AM
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This deal is horrible; I am not trying to defend it. But my question is, who is your #3C? O'Reilly? Duchene? Has to be one of them if it is not Stastny.
I think Avs are more using three scoring lines than the traditional two scoring lines and a defensive third line center.

So 1a-c or 2a-c, depending on how you view them.

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08-14-2012, 08:00 AM
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O'Reilly is the closest thing to "third line centre" we have though he can fill in on the top 6 too.

PS we aren't trading Stastny to Toronto.

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To Colorado:
Tyler bozak
Cody franson
Stuart Percy
A cond 1st pick in 2013 (1st if leafs make playoffs, 2nd if not)

To leafs:
Paul stastny.

Reasoning: with duchene and o'reilly seemingly out performing stastny he has been ulimatly moved down to 3C on their depth chart, somewhere bozak could fit perfectly in colorado. They also get a young solid D in franson who played his best hockey in the western conference with Nashville plus last years first round pick in Percy who becomes expendable to the leafs with the D drafted this year plus a possible 1st round pick. Leafs get their 1C who is a big American boy that will suite Burke.

P.S leafs depth will be a little weak on D without franson so they could sign a depth Defencman like kubina who I liked with the leafs or go a different route and trade MacArthur for a D. Or they can also just plug holzer in franson's spot.

Lineups after:
Avalanche- not too informed with colorado so this mainly a guess

Landeskog, o'reilly, parenteau
Jones, duchene, hejduk
Mcginn, bozak, downie
McLeod, Mitchell, kobasew

Hejda, Johnson
O'brian, franson
Wilson, hunwick
O'byrne

Leafs:

Lupul,stastny,kessel
MacArthur/kadri ,grabovski,JVR
Kulimin,McClement,connoly/frattin/kadri
Lombardi/komorov, steckel, brown

Phanuef,gunnerson
Gardiner,kubina/holzer/?
Liles, komisarek
NO from Toronto. Two 1st round picks, Bozak who had 6 less points than Stastny and Franson -- NO THANKS. Stastny is a 50 point player that makes 6.6 million a year and is soft. There are better ways to trade a package like that.

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08-14-2012, 08:51 AM
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NO from Toronto. Two 1st round picks, Bozak who had 6 less points than Stastny and Franson -- NO THANKS. Stastny is a 50 point player that makes 6.6 million a year and is soft. There are better ways to trade a package like that.
Stastny isn't soft. Where on earth did you get that idea?

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08-14-2012, 09:03 AM
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This is absolutely ridiculous.

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NO from Toronto. Two 1st round picks, Bozak who had 6 less points than Stastny and Franson -- NO THANKS. Stastny is a 50 point player that makes 6.6 million a year and is soft. There are better ways to trade a package like that.
I'm interested to hear WHICH players you believe this fantastic package will get you.

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This is absolutely ridiculous.
For the Leafs, I agree. The Avs can keep Stastny and that ridiculous salary for fifty point seasons.

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08-14-2012, 09:17 AM
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For the Leafs, I agree. The Avs can keep Stastny and that ridiculous salary for fifty point seasons.
Want Mitchell then? He's tougher then Stastny

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For the Leafs, I agree. The Avs can keep Stastny and that ridiculous salary for fifty point seasons.
The reason WHY these threads keep popping up, is BECAUSE Leafs fans know very well that if Stastny is playing between Kessel and Lupul, he won't be getting no 50 points a year (and they are correct in believing that as well).

I should specify, that this is conditional on Joe Sucko (Sacco) NOT becoming the head coach of the Leafs and Chuck Kobasew (whom Sacco believed is a top 6 forward) not joined the Leafs as well.

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For the Leafs, I agree. The Avs can keep Stastny and that ridiculous salary for fifty point seasons.
You don't see Avs fans posting proposals sending Stastny away, do you?

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08-14-2012, 09:31 AM
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The reason WHY these threads keep popping up, is BECAUSE Leafs fans know very well that if Stastny is playing between Kessel and Lupul, he won't be getting no 50 points a year (and they are correct in believing that as well).
A player is worth a significant package if he's able to produce points on his own accord, not because of who he's playing with. The Leafs would be better off keeping those assets and playing Tyler Bozak with Lupul and Kessel then.

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Can we have one all-purpose Stastny to Toronto thread?

And then move it to the Leafs board?

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A player is worth a significant package if he's able to produce points on his own accord, not because of who he's playing with. The Leafs would be better off keeping those assets and playing Tyler Bozak with Lupul and Kessel then.
But we want want Bozak, cause you know he's better then Stastny and everything

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08-14-2012, 09:54 AM
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But we want want Bozak, cause you know he's better then Stastny and everything
Tyler Bozak could potentially be better than Stastny in a third line role when you take salary and realizing ones place in the grand scheme of team chemistry. Improvement in the organization, when trading Stastny, could come in the form applying that hefty salary to other areas of need.

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08-14-2012, 09:59 AM
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A player is worth a significant package if he's able to produce points on his own accord, not because of who he's playing with. The Leafs would be better off keeping those assets and playing Tyler Bozak with Lupul and Kessel then.

Yup, the difference between Stastny's and Bozak's production presently isn't much. When you take into account Stastny makes 5 million a year more than Bozak does the Leafs are better off keeping Bozak and all of their assets.


Also for anyone complaining about Leafs fans creating these Stastny proposal threads you might want to check who is really making them.

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Tyler Bozak could potentially be better than Stastny in a third line role when you take salary and realizing ones place in the grand scheme of team chemistry. Improvement in the organization, when trading Stastny, could come in the form applying that hefty salary to other areas of need.
Exactly and since we are slightly below the salary cap, and still need to sign a bunch of players. Also we could trade Stastny for a player of need instead of a third line center, and a defenseman that was a healthy scratch for half the year.

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But we want want Bozak, cause you know he's better then Stastny and everything
You know I think some people took this as me being serious. Why would I want Bozak on my team when Stastny is going the other way? I would only consider it if Seth Jones was coming back the other way.

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08-14-2012, 10:35 AM
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A player is worth a significant package if he's able to produce points on his own accord, not because of who he's playing with. The Leafs would be better off keeping those assets and playing Tyler Bozak with Lupul and Kessel then.
Someone wake me up when a "significant package" is offered for Stastny.

And, guys who are passers generally need someone on the other end who is capable of a) accepting the pass, and b) putting the puck in the net. By your logic, the Sharks should be able to put Daniel Winnik (if he had resigned) and TJ Galiardi on Joe Thornton's wings and he shouldn't have any decrease in point production, right?

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