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08-14-2012, 02:55 PM
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Would be fun to see some of the reactions in this thread had the Habs signed Pacioretty to a 5.5M cap hit...I'm guessing that 1M difference would of changed the overall mood of this thread lol
Still on it eh, time to move on, no?

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Still on it eh, time to move on, no?
you forgot the most important part of his posts, the lol

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Still on it eh, time to move on, no?
Why should I? You don't like it..don't read/reply

I'm not telling you what you should or shouldn't write

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Just curious and I may be off on this, but even though Max's extension doesn't kick in for another year, does his cap hit only hit us then, or, do we need the space this year even though he's only paid his current salary for this year.

I thought I read somewhere that an extension like this would fall under the cap for the current year? Probably off base here.

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your still selling DD for dimes.....

You seen his point total this year ,and he and Pacman wasn't put together until???DECEMBER...

Martin finally clued..

He is goona get 100 pts in NHL...i know what i see..

Your the type to likely say way back Martin ST Louis is only a 40 pts man potential.


DD got something special ,open your eyes.
It has to be the most laughable post I read in a long time..

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you forgot the most important part of his posts, the lol
Nah, the most important part is right over you head...explaining why you don't seize it

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Just curious and I may be off on this, but even though Max's extension doesn't kick in for another year, does his cap hit only hit us then, or, do we need the space this year even though he's only paid his current salary for this year.

I thought I read somewhere that an extension like this would fall under the cap for the current year? Probably off base here.
Only next year, has nothing to do with this year. He has a cap hit of 1.625 for this upcoming season

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Just curious and I may be off on this, but even though Max's extension doesn't kick in for another year, does his cap hit only hit us then, or, do we need the space this year even though he's only paid his current salary for this year.

I thought I read somewhere that an extension like this would fall under the cap for the current year? Probably off base here.
Does it matter?

Like Bergevin said during his press conference, if they need to create salary cap space, there are ways to do this. Put the calculator away man, enjoy being a fan and knowing that one of our best young players will be a Habs for the forseable future

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I think ya'll need to live your life and let Bergevin do his job.

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I think ya'll need to live your life and let Bergevin do his job.
no kidding...remove capgeek.com from your favorites fellas.

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What a steal of a deal.

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Best part about this deal is even if Pacioretty struggles a bit next year and doesn't approach this past year's numbers...no one can technically say he's overpaid

Thank God for that

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That is a steal. Your GM is a hero.

Congrats guys. Pacioretty's a sick player.

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Does it matter?

Like Bergevin said during his press conference, if they need to create salary cap space, there are ways to do this. Put the calculator away man, enjoy being a fan and knowing that one of our best young players will be a Habs for the forseable future
I am curious, take your cap hit crusade somewhere else. I am tired of you telling others what they should be concerned with. It was a simple question without any panic or concern at all. Was curious more with the legalities than the cap hit.

You been doing this for months, get over it and move on.

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I dont get his confused crusade either.

Fans are allowed to comment and express interest in our cap space, and far be it for anyone to tell them they aren't allowed.

It was a good cap hit, relative to his market value, and we as fans are happy with it. It's not a hugely complicated concept.

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I am curious, take your cap hit crusade somewhere else. I am tired of you telling others what they should be concerned with. It was a simple question without any panic or concern at all. Was curious more with the legalities than the cap hit.

You been doing this for months, get over it and move on.
Funny how you're knocking me for telling others what they should be concerned with (even though that's not what I've done at all) yet you're sitting there telling ME what I should do... Oh the irony

Also... I know you were curious, I just tried to answer your question and give you a different perspective
And as long as cap hits get more attention than actual player evaluations... I'll always have something to say about because I find it absolutely ridiculous

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Plek could have been signed long term round 3.5

Josh G likley 2.75-3 million...

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That is a steal. Your GM is a hero.

Congrats guys. Pacioretty's a sick player.
Thanks mano!

That seems to be the consensus all around on HF, which is a good, albeit rare, sign.

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Funny how you're knocking me for telling others what they should be concerned with (even though that's not what I've done at all) yet you're sitting there telling ME what I should do... Oh the irony

Also... I know you were curious, I just tried to answer your question and give you a different perspective
And as long as cap hits get more attention than actual player evaluations... I'll always have something to say about because I find it absolutely ridiculous

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I Asked a simple question about the cba, it had nothing to do with Max's cap hit specifically. I'd prefer if you kept your meaningless posts to yourself, unless you have an answer to the question I asked, which you didn't at all. Player evaluation cannot be done 100% accurately without consideration to his contract, it is you who continually ignores that, not anyone else. Contracts determine their ability to be moved and so on, and also contribute greatly to their trade value.

That wasn't my concern here at all though. It was the issue of the cba and whether I miss remembered or misinterpreted what I thought I read.

I enjoy understanding the cba and the business aspects of hockey and find it interesting. If you don't care about these things, that's fine, don't attempt to answer my questions without giving an answer.

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I dont get his confused crusade either.

Fans are allowed to comment and express interest in our cap space, and far be it for anyone to tell them they aren't allowed.

It was a good cap hit, relative to his market value, and we as fans are happy with it. It's not a hugely complicated concept.


Look, I too was happy to hear about the salary cap hit... I just find it 'funny' how several people in this very thread and on twitter waited to hear what the cap hit was going to be, before actually being behind this deal

As though Pacioretty was gonna sign for a maximum deal... Give me a break. We've just gotten to the point where we don't even need to call players by their names anymore... Might as well refer to them by their cap hits, almost as though their salaries is all they're worth

Nothing more hilarious than watching fans stress about cap hits while owners/GM's handouts money like candy

The people in charge don't seem to overly concerned... So why you pulling your hair out?


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I Asked a simple question about the cba, it had nothing to do with Max's cap hit specifically. I'd prefer if you kept your meaningless posts to yourself, unless you have an answer to the question I asked, which you didn't at all. Player evaluation cannot be done 100% accurately without consideration to his contract, it is you who continually ignores that, not anyone else. Contracts determine their ability to be moved and so on, and also contribute greatly to their trade value.

That wasn't my concern here at all though. It was the issue of the cba and whether I miss remembered or misinterpreted what I thought I read.

I enjoy understanding the cba and the business aspects of hockey and find it interesting. If you don't care about these things, that's fine, don't attempt to answer my questions without giving an answer.
It's great that's what you prefer... Fortunately, this is a public forum that enables people to post their opinions on hockey related matters. There is the ignore option if you choose to use it


Maybe you thought I was being facetious be my reply... But if wasn't... Granted, maybe I should of addressed your question rather repeat what you obviously don't like to read

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Look, I too was happy to hear about the salary cap hit... I just find it 'funny' how several people in this very thread and on twitter waited to hear what the cap hit was going to be, before actually being behind this deal

As though Pacioretty was gonna sign for a maximum deal... Give me a break. We've just gotten to the point where we don't even need to call players by their names anymore... Might as well refer to them by their cap hits, almost as though their salaries is all they're worth

Nothing more hilarious than watching fans stress about cap hits while owners/GM's handouts money like candy

The people in charge don't seem to overly concerned... So why you pulling your hair out?
No one is pulling their hair out. Do yourself a favour and drop the sensationalism crap.

We are just discussing the cap hit, the term, the cap situation of our team and the resulting influence the Pacioretty contract has on our team, both off and on the ice.

Does that bug you so much that you need to go on a crusade and tell everyone to 'put their calculators away' ?

Why do you care if people are discussing a current event going on in respects to their favourite team. Fans do this, it's a very, very, very simple concept.

Although I suppose we always need someone to tell others what they should do or how they should react to news, no forum would be complete without it.

Have a good day Buzz Kilington, you seem like a real fun guy to be around! ( insert lol here)



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Not surprised you find it confusing... Typical sheep mentality

Look, I too was happy to hear about the salary cap hit... I just find it 'funny' how several people in this very thread and on twitter waited to hear what the cap hit was going to be, before actually being behind this deal

As though Pacioretty was gonna sign for a maximum deal... Give me a break. We've just gotten to the point where we don't even need to call players by their names anymore... Might as well refer to them by their cap hits, almost as though their salaries is all they're worth

Nothing more hilarious than watching fans stress about cap hits while owners/GM's handouts money like candy

The people in charge don't seem to overly concerned... So why you pulling your hair out?
Maybe because we like discussing the cap? We like to maximize our returns? Some people like that, I know I do.

I never got the chance to comment on his contract, I only saw the news at 9AM and by that time the numbers had already broke. But I was elated, I didn't think it was going to happen right away but I'm very happy with the numbers handed out. There isn't very much risk attached.

One way to look at the cap hit is this. Hypothetically, let's just we have a core group of 6-7 guys on our hockey club. Let's say we hypothetically "overpaid" each of those players by a million dollars when you look at a comparables around the league. That's 6-7M that could be tied up in what would, again, against comparables add up to adding a star roster Forward/Defenseman to that core. Even if you overpaid those players by .5M that would still add up to a significant player who could make a difference.

That's why people care about cap hits. People want to see the best iced product possible. Overpaying potentially restricts your roster into adding less quality players. All the recent cup winners have solid players on their teams with mostly "market value" contract players on them, and in some cases guys with undervalued contracts because they were signed young and the team took that risk.

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That's what I call a nice contract, it's rare when we have a good deal here in Montreal enjoy!

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