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08-09-2012, 01:42 PM
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Tokarski won't be up in Tampa as a perhaps backup?
Tampa traded two 2nds and a 3rd rd pick to Nashville for G Lindback, so the G depth chart is Lindback, Garon, Tokarski, Helenius, Janus.

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Tampa traded two 2nds and a 3rd rd pick to Nashville for G Lindback, so the G depth chart is Lindback, Garon, Tokarski, Helenius, Janus.
Helenius should be rotting in the E, he's awful.

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08-09-2012, 08:12 PM
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Helenius won the best goaltender award in SM liiga (Finnish league) with 1.64 gaa, .936sv%, was on the allstar team, led his team to the championship.

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08-11-2012, 02:35 PM
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Tampa traded two 2nds and a 3rd rd pick to Nashville for G Lindback, so the G depth chart is Lindback, Garon, Tokarski, Helenius, Janus.
Correction: Lindback, Garon, Tokarski, Helenius, Nagle.....Janus is headed to Europe

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08-11-2012, 03:16 PM
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not sure if you can say they are one of the "favorites," but I have to say, Wilkes-Barre/Scranton's D looks pretty insane right now. Guess that's what happens when your GM drafts 500 defenseman in the draft.

they were pretty good last year, I think they'll compete again this year. Very interested to see what Joe Morrow can do in the A

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08-13-2012, 04:59 PM
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bulldogs for the cup!

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08-13-2012, 11:43 PM
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I like the look of the Marlies.

- Some big AHL additions in Aucoin, Kostka, Yeo
- retained Zigomanis
- full season of Fraser and Deschamps
- possible maturation of Ashton, Blacker, D'Amigo
- big college FA signing in Abbott
- plus (based on the odds) at least one of the incoming rookies should do well from Ross, McKegg, Crecenzi, Broll
- at G, Rynnas is solid in the 'A' and it's still possible Scrivens will be waived/demoted

Also if Colborne can improve his consistency, he could be a top 5 scorer in the league. I think the Marlies look stacked on paper.

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08-14-2012, 05:26 AM
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Helenius won the best goaltender award in SM liiga (Finnish league) with 1.64 gaa, .936sv%, was on the allstar team, led his team to the championship.
Thats shocking. He couldn't stop anything when I saw him in the ECHL Playoffs a few years back.

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Correction: Lindback, Garon, Tokarski, Helenius, Nagle.....Janus is headed to Europe
I'm guessing this is the Nagle who used to play for the Florida Everblades. Wonder if hes E bound again

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not sure if you can say they are one of the "favorites," but I have to say, Wilkes-Barre/Scranton's D looks pretty insane right now. Guess that's what happens when your GM drafts 500 defenseman in the draft.

they were pretty good last year, I think they'll compete again this year. Very interested to see what Joe Morrow can do in the A
Is WBS ever bad? Usually when the parent club is good the AHL one sucks and vice versa

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Is WBS ever bad? Usually when the parent club is good the AHL one sucks and vice versa
They have only missed the playoffs twice and have only had a losing record twice (inaugural season and 3rd season). The Pens have done a very good job of stocking that team with good prospects and select vets.

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They have only missed the playoffs twice and have only had a losing record twice (inaugural season and 3rd season). The Pens have done a very good job of stocking that team with good prospects and select vets.
Well, I do believe that the Penguins' front office wants to give the WBS fans a winner. The WBS Penguins were the organizations' money maker during the lean years recently. I believe that in that regards the Penguins make an attempt to make certain that WBS has a competitive team that the fans will want to see. Plus their player development strategy seems to work well with veterans to show the prospects what they need to learn to become NHL players. I am certain that all NHL teams try to do this with their AHL affiliates, but because of the financial history, i think Pittsburgh makes a concerted effort to do so.

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Well, I do believe that the Penguins' front office wants to give the WBS fans a winner. The WBS Penguins were the organizations' money maker during the lean years recently. I believe that in that regards the Penguins make an attempt to make certain that WBS has a competitive team that the fans will want to see. Plus their player development strategy seems to work well with veterans to show the prospects what they need to learn to become NHL players. I am certain that all NHL teams try to do this with their AHL affiliates, but because of the financial history, i think Pittsburgh makes a concerted effort to do so.
Teams that own their AHL franchise have more incentive to put a winning team on the ice than those that do not IMO.

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Teams that own their AHL franchise have more incentive to put a winning team on the ice than those that do not IMO.
Haven't followed it closely but it seems like Buffalo is more interested in developing over giving Rochester a winning team.

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Haven't followed it closely but it seems like Buffalo is more interested in developing over giving Rochester a winning team.
Last year was the first year that Buffalo owned Rochester so I'd say the jury is still out on that one.

The one blatant exception to the rule is NJ.

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I have 4 words for ya Adirondack Phantoms win Calder Cup
thats 5 words

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thats 5 words
You get the silver medal for pointing this out. Gold was already awarded.

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Except, well, ummmm, that's five words....

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You could make it four if you wrote it as Adirondack-Phantoms win Calder Cup!

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Last year was the first year that Buffalo owned Rochester so I'd say the jury is still out on that one.

The one blatant exception to the rule is NJ.
Just seems like they haven't done anything for them this summer and they are losing some decent players

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Teams that own their AHL franchise have more incentive to put a winning team on the ice than those that do not IMO.
I would agree with this statement so long as player development needs are being met. If teams are only worried about putting winners on the ice and not developing talent, the AHL franchises are not worthwhile for the teams. And sometimes the AHL fans believe that the NHl team does not have the AHL fans' best interests at heart.

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08-19-2012, 09:55 AM
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I would agree with this statement so long as player development needs are being met. If teams are only worried about putting winners on the ice and not developing talent, the AHL franchises are not worthwhile for the teams. And sometimes the AHL fans believe that the NHl team does not have the AHL fans' best interests at heart.
Change that to frequently. The NHL teams do what is in their best interest. That makes them like most people.

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08-19-2012, 03:15 PM
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Houston !!

And what do AHLers that aren't NHL contracted make on average...

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Houston !!

And what do AHLers that aren't NHL contracted make on average...
In 10-11 it was just under $62k US, but the link I got that from before is dead now...my guess is 11-12 was a similar number.

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In 10-11 it was just under $62k US, but the link I got that from before is dead now...my guess is 11-12 was a similar number.
So a top player makes like what 150k ?

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So a top player makes like what 150k ?
Not including players on 1-way NHL deals, I think Keith Aucoin has been the highest paid player the last couple seasons and he makes ~$300-350k. I know there's a few other "AHL lifer" players making +$200k.

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