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08-15-2012, 02:59 PM
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How many PPG players exist in the Western Conference. It'd be nice to be out East and play Toronto, the Islanders, and Tampa Bay all the time but with more games in the West that means more games against tight checking defensive minded teams. Don't worry about Kane's NHL scoring ranking or if he crosses "PPG" or not and pay attention to his pace versus the scoring pace of the rival teams in our conference.

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08-15-2012, 03:00 PM
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need to know the CBA first and what's possible. I think they will get extensions to and will retire as Hawks

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08-15-2012, 03:55 PM
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Kane being a PPG player is certainly not ambitious. 66 points last year while being on the worst PP in the league and playing a brand new position with a whole new set of responsibilities.

Kane getting 80-90 points multiple times is very, very doable.

Also, keep in mind that Kane and Toews will get new contracts in 3 years. The cap will keep going up and contracts will keep going up. Kane commanding $9 mil+ is not unfathamable

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08-15-2012, 04:41 PM
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I hope the Hawks dont sign him if he wants that much, Toews on the other hand, yes please.

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08-15-2012, 06:25 PM
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Good point Warrior. The West is a different animal with teams like Nashville, St Louis, Los Angeles, Detroit, ect. with suffocating defenses...top 10 defenses in the league. The East style of play is much more open(suitable to Kane especially). The East gets far more PPs than the West as well.

Patrick Kane finished 4th in the entire Western Conference for even strength points(tied with Marian Hossa and Henrik Sedin). Patrick Kane was 4th in the Western Conference in even strength points in 09-10 as well. He would've likely finished top 5 again in 10-11 if not for missing basically 10 games. Even with those missed games, Kane finished 10th in even strength points in the Western Conference.

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08-15-2012, 07:47 PM
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Unless Kane's defensive game dramatically improves or the salary cap goes up by at least 10mil from 72mil, PASS!

..and FWIW, Parenteau actually outscored Kane last year in less games.
It's worth nothing. No one with half a brain would make an argument that Parenteau is anywhere near as good as Kane.

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08-15-2012, 07:49 PM
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I still remember the game against Ottawa where Kane should have had 5 points but I don't think he had any points. The East is, by far, the easier conference to score in.

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Kane being a PPG player is certainly not ambitious. 66 points last year while being on the worst PP in the league and playing a brand new position with a whole new set of responsibilities.

Kane getting 80-90 points multiple times is very, very doable.

Also, keep in mind that Kane and Toews will get new contracts in 3 years. The cap will keep going up and contracts will keep going up. Kane commanding $9 mil+ is not unfathamable
yea, hes put up similar ES numbers every year, difference has been the PP. Not to mention the switching between RW and C last year and a bunch of different line combos.

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08-15-2012, 09:44 PM
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I still remember the game against Ottawa where Kane should have had 5 points but I don't think he had any points. The East is, by far, the easier conference to score in.
I hate making this petty argument but Kane missed out on atleast 3 points that game. People assume that he always played with 2 of sharp Toews Hossa when in reality he had carcillo, Stalberg, and or Bruno as his "linemates" for a large chunk of games.

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brunette cost kane at least 10pts by himself. Dude was the bunt king last year.

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It's worth nothing. No one with half a brain would make an argument that Parenteau is anywhere near as good as Kane.
I wouldn't argue that, I'm just saying that PA earned his 4.5.

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08-16-2012, 12:42 AM
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I looked and saw that 2 Hawks were in the Top10 for West scoring, Kane was 13th and Toews 26th. Toews would have been Top5 with this ppg production

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