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08-16-2012, 10:44 AM
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Kovalev

It seems that Alexei Kovalev is eyeing a return to the NHL. You guys think Rangers would be one of the teams who, supposedly invited him to training camp? Personally I don't think he has anything at all to offer and he definitely doesn't fit the locker room and wouldn't sit well at all with Torts, but stranger things have happened. We need some depth and he could fill that role, and he's familiar with the Rangers.

But yeah, I don't think he has anything left in the tank and apparently he hasn't even started skating and working out yet so at 39 I doubt he'd be able to keep up at all.

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I thought he retired.

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I wouldn't mind, but no chance. He'll never play for this team again.

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I wouldn't mind, but no chance. He'll never play for this team again.
You wouldn't mind?

He's been DONZO for years.

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I'd much sooner offer Petr Sykora a tryout.

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I'd much sooner offer Petr Sykora a tryout.
Absolutely. At least he tries, and we know he can still put up 20g.

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I'm about as interested in bring in Kovalev as Kovalev was interested in playing hard for the Rangers his second time around.

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You wouldn't mind?

He's been DONZO for years.
Not really. He's too talented to ever be "donzo." He just only plays when he cares, which is usually when his team is playing in meaningful games.

When I say I wouldn't mind . . . I mean on a very affordable short-term contract with absolutely no guarantees as far as playing time. But like I said, moot point. It's not happening.

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Not really. He's too talented to ever be "donzo." He just only plays when he cares, which is usually when his team is playing in meaningful games.

When I say I wouldn't mind . . . I mean on a very affordable short-term contract with absolutely no guarantees as far as playing time. But like I said, moot point. It's not happening.
Yeah I agree, if it's at a salary at maximum of $1,000,000 then why not. He can play powerplay and fill in on the top lines if some of our youngsters would falter, which isn't too far a stretch. He's been around though and contrary to what everyone says, I don't think he's much of a locker room issue if there's already a tight group there. He could be a decent mentor (although not work ethic wise...) to our younger guys. He sure got experience.

But no, I don't see it happening and while I'm not totally oppose it, I wouldn't mind signing some depth defensemen instead.

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He just only plays when he cares, which is usually when his team is playing in meaningful games.
That would go over well with the coach and on a team that has built their reputation on outworking other teams night in and night out.

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I wouldn't mind a camp invite. Sure why not? Make him earn a short, low cap contract.

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That would go over well with the coach and on a team that has built their reputation on outworking other teams night in and night out.
And that's the primary reason why I said it doesn't matter, because there's no chance of it happening. That and the fallout of his last stay here.

I can't help it, I'll always have a soft spot for Kovalev. He could have been one of the greats if he had been more dedicated. He's one of the most skilled players to ever play in this league.

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i wudnt mind giving any player a camp invite. if they earn a roster spot and a cheap contract then theyve showed enough for torts.

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also. people thought fedotenko wouldnt make it with us 2 years ago when he got a camp tryout and then played pretty well for us for 2 years after he was a disaster his last season in pittsburgh.

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08-16-2012, 11:31 AM
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And that's the primary reason why I said it doesn't matter, because there's no chance of it happening. That and the fallout of his last stay here.

I can't help it, I'll always have a soft spot for Kovalev. He could have been one of the greats if he had been more dedicated. He's one of the most skilled players to ever play in this league.
Just out of curiosity, I haven't been following the Rangers very closely until Lundqvist started playing here, but what happened? The 'fallout' I mean.

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Feds was a lot younger tna Kovalev is now. Kovy is done.

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Just out of curiosity, I haven't been following the Rangers very closely until Lundqvist started playing here, but what happened? The 'fallout' I mean.
He was acquired before the previous lockout for pennies on the dollar, but with very high expectations after playing the best hockey of his career in Pittsburgh. He was pretty dreadful after the deal, until the Rangers traded him to MTL in the purge of 2004. Like I said earlier, Kovalev is a very smart player, but he doesn't always choose to play smart. That team was terrible, and you could tell by his actions on the ice that he wasn't exactly inspired to play his best. He spent a lot of time fooling around with the puck and usually seemed to not have his head in the game.

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And that's the primary reason why I said it doesn't matter, because there's no chance of it happening. That and the fallout of his last stay here.

I can't help it, I'll always have a soft spot for Kovalev. He could have been one of the greats if he had been more dedicated. He's one of the most skilled players to ever play in this league.
Fair enough.. I understand the emotional connection.

The last statement is a pretty bold one; I'm on the fence with how I feel about it.

I'll always remember a young Kovalev with his little troll doll.

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08-16-2012, 11:44 AM
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I'll always have a soft spot for Kovalev too, his skill and talent was jaw dropping, just was never able to put it together in NY. TSN did a top 10 Skill list of all-time and they ranked Kovalev 4 only behind Lemieux, Orr, and Gretzky.

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZjBvMncouU (7:29 for Kovalev)
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXemlGWOH6k

Their list if you don't want to watch:

10) Pavel Datsyuk
9) Jaromir Jagr
8) Pavel Bure
7) Denis Savard
6) Kent Nilsson
5) Gilbert Perreault
4) Alex Kovalev
3) Wayne Gretzky
2) Bobby Orr
1) Mario Lemieux


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I would'nt mind Kovy if he won a spot out of camp. He really **** the bed for us during his second stint, but he was a major reason 94 ended the way that it did. He is old and has no legs, but Dem Hands still work

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Kovalev never made hockey a priority when he was in NYC. Never. The only thing that carried him while he was here were his God-given talents.

Come on, guys. We're talking about Alexei Kovalev.

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Many years ago, I attended an event featuring a lot of Russian players, among them Igor Larionov and Slava Fetisov. I consider both to be among the most intelligent players to ever play the game. One of them (I spoke briefly with both, and the event was so long ago I can't remember which one said this specifically) mentioned to me that he believed Kovalev had the potential to be the greatest Russian player of all-time.

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