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08-18-2012, 09:19 AM
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Is Buff dead set against playing forward? I thought he could be pretty effective up front and would deepen your forward group. Not to mention add significant size.
He seems to be. He made it clear he wants to play defense. I agree he would be of more value to the Jets as a forward. On occasion he spends full shifts deep in the attacking zone anyways. Just as a d-man this often leads to odd man rushes against. Enstrom is probably forced to break up more 2 on 1's then any other d-man in the league. But some night's when Buff's game is on it is like the puck is glued to his stick and he is unstopable.

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08-18-2012, 09:21 AM
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Dude, just no. You won't even trade Jets your best goalie prospect? Like, for Byfuglien?! He has his inconsistencies but he still has room to improve and is already a top tier offensive guy the last two seasons. Cap dump, B- prospect and 24-30 pick is an absolutely insulting offer to the Jets.
Ballard, Schroeder, 1st, Lack for Buff?

I would love to see him play with the Sedins in the playoffs.

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08-18-2012, 09:26 AM
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Ballard, Schroeder, 1st, Lack for Buff?

I would love to see him play with the Sedins in the playoffs.
Unless he's willing to play forward, thats way more than I would pay. Even so, it's overpayment. I'd taher trade K-Conn because he's at a position we don't need to replace any time soon, while we'll need a backup and replacement centre.

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08-18-2012, 09:28 AM
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Unless he's willing to play forward, thats way more than I would pay. Even so, it's overpayment. I'd taher trade K-Conn because he's at a position we don't need to replace any time soon, while we'll need a backup and replacement centre.
how could he say no to Sedin-Sedin-Buff? Good luck stopping that line in the playoffs.

You have to pay to get.

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08-18-2012, 09:31 AM
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how could he say no to Sedin-Sedin-Buff? Good luck stopping that line in the playoffs.

You have to pay to get.
I'd rather pay from an area of depth than an area of weakness.

Maybe Ballard, Lack/Schroeder, K-Conn, 2nd?

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08-18-2012, 09:36 AM
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Dougie Hamilton, Jordan Caron and a 1st round pick for buff and Kane.

Hamilton and byfuglien both are attacking D with different skill sets beyond that, Hamilton with much higher upside. Caron and the first balance it out to include Kane.

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they have bogosian and enstrom?

it's kind of pointless to keep three top-pairing offensive d-men when you have holes elsewhere. a good pick or good prospect could ultimately turn into the top line forward they are missing.
What has Bogosian done over the last 3 yrs?

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08-18-2012, 10:07 AM
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Dougie Hamilton, Jordan Caron and a 1st round pick for buff and Kane.

Hamilton and byfuglien both are attacking D with different skill sets beyond that, Hamilton with much higher upside. Caron and the first balance it out to include Kane.
I highly doubt they'd dump Kane to trade Byfuglien.

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08-18-2012, 10:22 AM
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I highly doubt they'd dump Kane to trade Byfuglien.
If byfuglien was the centerpiece maybe...

Alesander khoklachev, Andy ference and Jordan caron for byfuglien

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What has Bogosian done over the last 3 yrs?
Bogo had a big bounce back season last year and was the Jets shut down d, 1st PK unit and is starting to show good offensive potential (30 pts despite missing close to 20 games due to injury). IMO he is ready to move up to the 1st pairing given the chance. Him and Kane are probably as close to untouchable the Jets have due to their age, draft pedigree and elite level potential.

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He seems to be. He made it clear he wants to play defense. I agree he would be of more value to the Jets as a forward. On occasion he spends full shifts deep in the attacking zone anyways. Just as a d-man this often leads to odd man rushes against. Enstrom is probably forced to break up more 2 on 1's then any other d-man in the league. But some night's when Buff's game is on it is like the puck is glued to his stick and he is unstopable.
Byfuglien is that guy in NHL 12 online games that rushes to claim one of the defense spots before anyone else does, and then spends the entire game playing forward

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The vast majority of Jets fans want no part in trading Buff.

But IF Buff was to be traded, it's going to be for another impact player or two, not for a bunch of spare parts.

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Dougie Hamilton, Jordan Caron and a 1st round pick for buff and Kane.

Hamilton and byfuglien both are attacking D with different skill sets beyond that, Hamilton with much higher upside. Caron and the first balance it out to include Kane.
If we could work something out with Hamilton and Buff that doesn't include Kane or Bogosian I'm all ears.

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08-18-2012, 10:30 AM
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If we could work something out with Hamilton and Buff that doesn't include Kane or Bogosian I'm all ears.
Trouba, burmistrov, byfuglien

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Hamilton, Jared knight, Rich peverley, jordan caron and a 1st

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If byfuglien was the centerpiece maybe...

Alesander khoklachev, Andy ference and Jordan caron for byfuglien
Lol no wont work Alexander khoklachev is staying in Russia playing for his dad....and that trade wont work for the jets....maybe drop ference add MaQuaid and a 1st because the pick will be late first

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Jesus you guys have no idea the value Buff would fetch in a trade.

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08-18-2012, 10:56 AM
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Trouba, burmistrov, byfuglien

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Hamilton, Jared knight, Rich peverley, jordan caron and a 1st
Lets pare it down a bit. I'd include Burmi amd Buff, but I wouldn't want to include Trouba...though he does project as a classic Bruin. Big, nasty and looks like he will be a big hitter. I think he will be a solid shutdown 2nd pairing guy.

Would love Hamilton. The rest of your offer doesn't really meet a lot of our needs and your 1st will be in the 25 - 30 range. Does Knight still project as a top 6 forward? My impression is he is looking more like a 3rd liner and we have a glut of players in that range.

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Jesus you guys have no idea the value Buff would fetch in a trade.
So tell us what would he fetch?

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Lol no wont work Alexander khoklachev is staying in Russia playing for his dad....and that trade wont work for the jets....maybe drop ference add MaQuaid and a 1st because the pick will be late first
The jets already have Adam mcquaid in mark Stuart. Khoklachev is supposed to come back after one season. That's a bit of a risk though, although he did sign an entry level deal as a sign of good faith. I wouldn't part with any D on Boston besides ference or boychuk. But adding boychuk would negate the 1st and require a mid level prospect on the jets end

Boychuk, Caron, khoklachev/Jared knight for byfuglien and telegin.

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Does buff want to play forward?

As an Isles fan I'd trade Nino and a 2nd or Nielsen and a 5th.

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08-18-2012, 11:09 AM
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Lets pare it down a bit. I'd include Burmi amd Buff, but I wouldn't want to include Trouba...though he does project as a classic Bruin. Big, nasty and looks like he will be a big hitter. I think he will be a solid shutdown 2nd pairing guy.

Would love Hamilton. The rest of your offer doesn't really meet a lot of our needs and your 1st will be in the 25 - 30 range. Does Knight still project as a top 6 forward? My impression is he is looking more like a 3rd liner and we have a glut of players in that range.
I'll keep the offer the same from the jets end but alter the trade to include Ryan spooner instead of knight with an additional mid level 3rd pairing D prospect (tommy cross).

Hamilton, spooner, Caron, peverley, cross and a 1st..that's a mouthful

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Buff is an impact player, period. There's no comparable player in the league. His defensive lapses are well known but I absolutely wouldn't trade him for a bunch of spare pieces (cue the Ballard + Raymond proposals). If you're going to trade an impact player, you want another one in return or at least several high-end prospects, not a second-pairing D.

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Dougie Hamilton, Jordan Caron and a 1st round pick for buff and Kane.

Hamilton and byfuglien both are attacking D with different skill sets beyond that, Hamilton with much higher upside. Caron and the first balance it out to include Kane.
Wow, we're overvaluing prospects here. I recognize Hamilton is a great prospect but you're still lucky if he turns out to be as good as Buff is. Realistically Caron's not a high ranking prospect and the 1st would be late. That package might get you Kane (who is worth more than Buff) but certainly not Kane and Buff.

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Trouba, burmistrov, byfuglien

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Hamilton, Jared knight, Rich peverley, jordan caron and a 1st
Trouba and Hamilton are essentially a wash, different styles but similar value. This is admittedly much better than the previous one but still not something I'd care to do.

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Does buff want to play forward?

As an Isles fan I'd trade Nino and a 2nd or Nielsen and a 5th.
Lol are you trying to say Nielsen has more value then Niño?...Because Niño will end up being way better.

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Gunnarsson + Kulemin + Colborne + Macarthur + 2013 1st

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Buff, Kane.

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Caron, Mottau, and 1st round pick.

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