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08-17-2012, 09:17 PM
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Here we go again.

I read that the rumors are starting up again about Kane being traded to buffalo for miller +.when will it stop.we are not trading Kane period.

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08-17-2012, 09:43 PM
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Plus Myers and I am fine with it. Otherwise no.

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08-17-2012, 10:38 PM
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No ****ing way.

I would consider this:

Ryan Miller, Tyler Myers, Jason Pominville, Mikhail Grigorenko for Patrick Kane, Nick Leddy, Corey Crawford, Michael Frolik

FORWARDS
Viktor Stalberg ($0.875m) / Jonathan Toews ($6.300m) / Marian Hossa ($5.275m)
Patrick Sharp ($5.900m) / Mikhail Grigorenko ($1.775m) / Jason Pominville ($5.300m)
Bryan Bickell ($0.542m) / Dave Bolland ($3.375m) / Andrew Shaw ($0.565m)
Daniel Carcillo ($0.825m) / Marcus Kruger ($0.900m) / Jimmy Hayes ($0.875m)
Jamal Mayers ($0.650m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Brent Seabrook ($5.800m) / Duncan Keith ($5.538m)
Tyler Myers ($5.500m) / Niklas Hjalmarsson ($3.500m)
Johnny Oduya ($3.383m) / Steve Montador ($2.750m)
Sheldon Brookbank ($1.250m) /
GOALTENDERS
Ryan Miller ($6.250m)
Ray Emery ($1.150m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,278,462; BONUSES: $1,112,500
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $1,921,538

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08-17-2012, 11:19 PM
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That's extreme, Myers + Miller and I'm very happy.

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08-17-2012, 11:58 PM
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No ****ing way.

I would consider this:

Ryan Miller, Tyler Myers, Jason Pominville, Mikhail Grigorenko for Patrick Kane, Nick Leddy, Corey Crawford, Michael Frolik

FORWARDS
Viktor Stalberg ($0.875m) / Jonathan Toews ($6.300m) / Marian Hossa ($5.275m)
Patrick Sharp ($5.900m) / Mikhail Grigorenko ($1.775m) / Jason Pominville ($5.300m)
Bryan Bickell ($0.542m) / Dave Bolland ($3.375m) / Andrew Shaw ($0.565m)
Daniel Carcillo ($0.825m) / Marcus Kruger ($0.900m) / Jimmy Hayes ($0.875m)
Jamal Mayers ($0.650m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Brent Seabrook ($5.800m) / Duncan Keith ($5.538m)
Tyler Myers ($5.500m) / Niklas Hjalmarsson ($3.500m)
Johnny Oduya ($3.383m) / Steve Montador ($2.750m)
Sheldon Brookbank ($1.250m) /
GOALTENDERS
Ryan Miller ($6.250m)
Ray Emery ($1.150m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,278,462; BONUSES: $1,112,500
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $1,921,538
I'd love for that trade to happen, but that is severely biased. Add Hjalmarsson and a first at minimum.

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08-18-2012, 02:39 AM
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Oh yeah it is a total ripoff but there is no reason to trade Kane. If we traded Kane for even Myers and Miller then our top 9 is something like:

Stalberg-Toews-Hossa
Shaw-Kruger-Sharp
Bickell-Bolland-Frolik

yuck. Especially if Saad isn't ready

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08-18-2012, 04:10 AM
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Unsubstantiated Kane trade rumor #86874

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08-18-2012, 11:01 AM
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I guess one of the good things about a potential lock out is that I won't be tempted to visit the nonsense trade section on HF.

I've never been more annoyed on HFBoards than when i was in the Kane + for Miller+ threads.

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08-19-2012, 10:39 AM
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Miller for Kane

we all know that this will happen soon. On the same day, Toews gets traded to WPG

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08-19-2012, 04:21 PM
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I read that the rumors are starting up again about Kane being traded to buffalo for miller +.when will it stop.we are not trading Kane period.
Where did you read this?

They've already said they're not trading him. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if he played out his career in Chicago.

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08-20-2012, 05:06 AM
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would be interested in a source too

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Oh yeah it is a total ripoff but there is no reason to trade Kane. If we traded Kane for even Myers and Miller then our top 9 is something like:

Stalberg-Toews-Hossa
Shaw-Kruger-Sharp
Bickell-Bolland-Frolik

yuck. Especially if Saad isn't ready
A top 9 with 3 All-Stars and the one of the best #3 C in the NHL isn't that bad.

Plus even if Kane leaves and all 23 of the goals he scores aren't replaced in any way shape or form, the Hawks only go from 5th in scoring to 13th, if the GA and PK are improved in the deal it's not a bad trade.

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Someone really needs to make a "is Patrick Kane getting traded?" website that just has "NO" and nothing else on the screen.

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The rumour is on ******* Insider...that's where he got it from

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A top 9 with 3 All-Stars and the one of the best #3 C in the NHL isn't that bad.

Plus even if Kane leaves and all 23 of the goals he scores aren't replaced in any way shape or form, the Hawks only go from 5th in scoring to 13th, if the GA and PK are improved in the deal it's not a bad trade.
And what about all the goals he creates from passes? Conveniently forget about that? Guys like Sharp and Toews' goals are reduced and our PP is probably even worse. Kane is our best offensive talent...trading him is dumb. If we want to improve our PK then maybe we trade useless bottom 6ers who can't PK like Bickell, Frolik, Hayes, ect. and stop using a 21 year old rookie who sucks defensively on the #2 PK unit.

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08-20-2012, 02:19 PM
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Plus even if Kane leaves and all 23 of the goals he scores aren't replaced in any way shape or form, the Hawks only go from 5th in scoring to 13th, if the GA and PK are improved in the deal it's not a bad trade.
You didn't think this through, did you?

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08-20-2012, 02:56 PM
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If we get a player that could nearly replace him and get Miller on top of that, I would start to think about it. If we don't get a sure Top6 player, no thank you

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A top 9 with 3 All-Stars and the one of the best #3 C in the NHL isn't that bad.

Plus even if Kane leaves and all 23 of the goals he scores aren't replaced in any way shape or form, the Hawks only go from 5th in scoring to 13th, if the GA and PK are improved in the deal it's not a bad trade.
LOL, what a terrible post.

We should trade Keith for Willie Mitchell too, since we would only drop 5?goals but our PK would improve.

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08-20-2012, 06:19 PM
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Fine, you folks don't want to trade Kane ... but don't make the mistake of thinking that it can't happen.

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Fine, you folks don't want to trade Kane ... but don't make the mistake of thinking that it can't happen.
I'm all for trading Kane, but not for Miller.

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08-20-2012, 06:35 PM
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We should trade Toews too. He's far too injury prone.

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08-20-2012, 06:40 PM
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We should trade Toews too. He's far too injury prone.
Ya, lets trade the guy who gets the same amount of points, but provides selke type defense, leadership, and excels at every other possible aspect of the game.

We could trade Kane for a #1 goalie + and be a better playoff team.

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Ya, lets trade the guy who gets the same amount of points, but provides selke type defense, leadership, and excels at every other possible aspect of the game.

We could trade Kane for a #1 goalie + and be a better playoff team.
Maybe, maybe not. Kane is out best offensive player in the playoffs. Scoring is hard to come by in the playoffs especially.

I wonder if Kane for Bryzgalov would've helped us. He was considered a top 10 goalie around this time last year.

There are maybe like 5 goalies I'd consider trading Kane for. By in large, they simply aren't that valuable. They are the most streaky and unpredictable. One year Craig Anderson is an allstar, then next he has a sub .900 SV%. JS Giguere is a Conn Smythe winner and dominate and 2 years later he is a backup. Mike Smith is a backup, borderline AHL goalie in 2010-11, then in 2011-12 he is a top 5 goalie in the NHL statistically. No GM would be dumb enough to shop Kane for a goalie IMO but you never know with Bowman I guess.

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Maybe, maybe not. Kane is out best offensive player in the playoffs. Scoring is hard to come by in the playoffs especially.

I wonder if Kane for Bryzgalov would've helped us. He was considered a top 10 goalie around this time last year.

There are maybe like 5 goalies I'd consider trading Kane for. By in large, they simply aren't that valuable. They are the most streaky and unpredictable. One year Craig Anderson is an allstar, then next he has a sub .900 SV%. JS Giguere is a Conn Smythe winner and dominate and 2 years later he is a backup. Mike Smith is a backup, borderline AHL goalie in 2010-11, then in 2011-12 he is a top 5 goalie in the NHL statistically. No GM would be dumb enough to shop Kane for a goalie IMO but you never know with Bowman I guess.
I'm not talking about any #1 goalie, only specific ones.
There are lots of skaters I would trade him for too.

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Have we seen Kane's best hockey? If not, why trade him?

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