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08-20-2012, 06:14 AM
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Luke Schenn Player Comparison

Going forward, maybe the most important young player on our team is Luke Schenn. With our defense in its current state we need him to develop into a Shut Down dman who can log big minutes for us.

My question for the posters here is what player currently or in the past represents Luke Schenn's potential.

Right now i see him as a Brooks Orpik type of guy, with a bit more mobility and a bit more physical.


But what can he develop into? What is his ceiling?

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Mac truck.

But seriously, Leafs fans before they soured on him saw him as a #2 or #3 defenseman who hits like a truck and is pretty good in the shutdown role but lacks much offensive abilities..

Comparison would probably be something like Scott Stevens after 1995, chris phillips, possibly Adam foote.


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sorry to break it to you, but schenn really doesn't have any more mobility than Sean O'Donnell

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sorry to break it to you, but schenn really doesn't have any more mobility than Sean O'Donnell
Give him a chance to lose the weight the Leafs made him pile on and he will be better.

Book it

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sorry to break it to you, but schenn really doesn't have any more mobility than Sean O'Donnell
I pray that this is the one subject you literally know nothing about.

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Potential? He was always compared to Adam Foote.

We can only dream....

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Going forward, maybe the most important young player on our team is Luke Schenn. With our defense in its current state we need him to develop into a Shut Down dman who can log big minutes for us.

My question for the posters here is what player currently or in the past represents Luke Schenn's potential.

Right now i see him as a Brooks Orpik type of guy, with a bit more mobility and a bit more physical.


But what can he develop into? What is his ceiling?
Orpik has 10 times the mobility of Schenn... whether the Flyers advise him to lose weight and that status changes, who knows?

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Give him a chance to lose the weight the Leafs made him pile on and he will be better.

Book it
Has he said the Leafs made him put the weight on and has he also said it was the cause of his play?

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I'd say at his best he could be similar to Robyn Regehr. They're a similar size, with Regehr at 6'3" 225 and Schen at 6'2" 229. Neither is particularly mobile, but both hit and block shots.

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Has he said the Leafs made him put the weight on and has he also said it was the cause of his play?

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One of the reasons I’m so encouraged is Luke Schenn. He’s up to 235 pounds. He looked great in the second half for us.

Brian Burke as quoted in Steve Simmons' piece this morning.
http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/20...-reasons-im-so

In the comments, people showed worry that the weight would slow him down...as it did.

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If Luke Schenn can lose some of the weight not all of it and im sure the staff has talked to him about it he will be more quicker he doesnt need to be that heavy.

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Lack of mobility and foot speed isn't a terribly concerning issue to me. Defenders who think the game well can easily compensate for not being extremely mobile. Pronger was a terrible skater and would probably have a close race with Jody Shelley, but he was able to make up for it by positioning himself perfectly and using his stick to close gaps that his speed could not.

Schenn can make up for his slow speed using angles and his stick. He doesn't need to drop 20 pounds to become an effective player. He just needs to adjust to what he is capable of doing. I am extremely excited to see him play. A fresh start will give him a clean slate of confidence. If he can get the ball rolling quickly, I think he could have a terrific season. Just one year ago, he was still a highly rated young player. Now he's apparently nothing more than a #6 defender who has no chance of ever getting better.

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Schenn is a Luke Richardson clone. He handles the puck well, clears the zone, hits and blocks shots. He'll never be a goal scorer and looks like he's skating in quicksand most of the time, but should round out the top 6 on the Flyers. He seems like a great guy and looks like he could be a captain in the NHL one day.

Keep your expectations moderate and you'll be happy with him.

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220 or 215 is a good playing weight.

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I Read an Article from Meltzer where he brought up the Adam Foote comparison. . I'm Staying Optimistic

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Foote was one of my favorite players growing up sounds good to me.

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I Read an Article from Meltzer where he brought up the Adam Foote comparison. . I'm Staying Optimistic
Luke can definitely become an Adam Foote type of player, but don't expect him to be that calibur in the next couple seasons. Stay at home defensemen take a long time to develop because they need to learn the positioning and when to make the big hit. For next season expect a Luke Richardson type of player from Schenn. He'll have to make a few steps to get to Foote, but I think he can make it there a few years from now with the right training.

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Potential? He was always compared to Adam Foote.We can only dream....
Yep Adam Foote. Luke is no Bobby Orr but he will add some much needed snarl to our backend. Looking forward to his play this year and am pulling for him, Gus,Manning,and MAB. It will do us good if some of this young blood steps up forces Homer not to make a deal.

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Luke can definitely become an Adam Foote type of player, but don't expect him to be that calibur in the next couple seasons. Stay at home defensemen take a long time to develop because they need to learn the positioning and when to make the big hit. For next season expect a Luke Richardson type of player from Schenn. He'll have to make a few steps to get to Foote, but I think he can make it there a few years from now with the right training.
I agree well said.

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Luke can definitely become an Adam Foote type of player, but don't expect him to be that calibur in the next couple seasons. Stay at home defensemen take a long time to develop because they need to learn the positioning and when to make the big hit. For next season expect a Luke Richardson type of player from Schenn. He'll have to make a few steps to get to Foote, but I think he can make it there a few years from now with the right training.
Thats One thing about the trade. Jvr and Schenn are both still young and could still be a few years from what would be considered there full potential.

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http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/20...-reasons-im-so

In the comments, people showed worry that the weight would slow him down...as it did.
I guess extra weight does not equal truculence! Has there been any word of him wanting to lose it?

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I Hope he Gains a lot from playing with Kimmo

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I guess extra weight does not equal truculence! Has there been any word of him wanting to lose it?
Shelley 6'3 230
Sestito 6'5 228
Grossman 6'4 230

Schenn 6'2 229
Thats a big dude for being 22. I guess Working out With Weber is helping. I hear alot about foot speed being an issue, but dudes gonna be a powerhouse.

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I Hope he Gains a lot from playing with Kimmo
If he's playing with Kimmo Timonen you'll see a very good side of Luke Schenn. When he was playing with a good, veteran puck moving defenseman (Kaberle) he was at his best as a Maple Leaf. However, as soon as Kaberle was traded we watched Schenn's play regress and his TOI fall. Confidence is a big factor with him. If he starts off well and adapts to the Flyers' system you guys will be very happy with Luke.

Hope we can be as happy with JvR.

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