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08-19-2012, 03:09 AM
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I'd actually do Demers and a mid round pick for Brodziak and a 7th round pick.
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I'd rather send Braun and a 4th for Brodziak and a 7th. Braun is from Minnesota too.

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Minnesota would say no thanks to the original offer.

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No thanks for Demers without significant additions for Brodziak. Spurgeon already plays the same game as Jason and fulfills that role pretty well. Simply put there is no real reason to trade one of the top 3rd line centers in the game for what would be a depth defenseman.

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I'd rather send Braun and a 4th for Brodziak and a 7th. Braun is from Minnesota too.
I'd actually spit my coffee in your face from laughing so hard.

And no one actually cares that he's from here. No one.

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I'd actually spit my coffee in your face from laughing so hard.

And no one actually cares that he's from here. No one.
Braun played MUCH better than Demers last year as well.

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Braun played MUCH better than Demers last year as well.
He really was.

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08-20-2012, 11:07 AM
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I'd actually spit my coffee in your face from laughing so hard.

And no one actually cares that he's from here. No one.
Braun was twice the player Demers was last year, so spit-take elsewhere...

That said, we have our toes crossed Demers bounces back this year to 2010-11 form.

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I'd actually spit my coffee in your face from laughing so hard.

And no one actually cares that he's from here. No one.
I care that he is from here and would welcome the addition of Braun to the wild, he's young ans has upside. This deal would hinge on SJ wanting to do it which i doubt they would, and Wild having someone who can step up, like Larsson

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Brodziak is one of the better #3 centers in the league. Great defensively. Wins all the board battles. Fantastic at maintaining possession. Amazing at using leverage to gain position. And underrated offensive ability. Plus, he's verstile.

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08-20-2012, 01:18 PM
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Braun played MUCH better than Demers last year as well.
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Braun was twice the player Demers was last year, so spit-take elsewhere...

That said, we have our toes crossed Demers bounces back this year to 2010-11 form.
I wouldn't have done the Demers deal either, calm down.

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Braun and Wingels and we have a trade.

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Braun and Wingels and we have a trade.
We would pass.

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We would pass.
No surprise.

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Handzus + Demers/Braun + pick

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Brodziak + pick

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Braun and Wingels and we have a trade.
Not a good trade tho. We fast tracked our desire to be a force in the NHL via free agency. Brodz gives us a better shot to contend now.

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Handzus + Demers/Braun + pick

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Handzus is of zero interest to the Wild I'd wager. So if we want a bottom six centre we can just sign Dom Moore. Fletch deftly restocked our cupboards. Picks do not hold the same appeal they once did when GM Fletch first came on-board. IF we traded Bro(which we won't, as management seem high on him) it would be for a more proven top four blueliner(now) than Braun/Demers.

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So if we want a bottom six centre we can just sign Dom Moore.

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I like Braun's game better than Demers'. The Wild's blue line certainly isn't anything above average but I don't think Demers' presence would elevate it to the next tier; whether that's now or further down the line. Braun I have higher hopes for over the course of his career but he's likely not at that level right now either.

Moving Brodziak off this roster creates problems on several fronts. At this point in time he provides a very sound all-around game at the NHL level. He locks down a vital spot on the roster so that the talented kids coming through the pipeline have to work to reach coveted ice time, thus are given proper time to develop their games and not be thrust into a situation they're not ready for. If the Wild were going to move Brodziak, it would have been at the deadline last year and the Wild wouldn't have re-signed him before leading into it. And given what Gaustad fetched, his price tag wouldn't have been cheap either. In such a scenario, the Wild would have had free agency to attempt to fill that sort of void as well. Any trade at this point fails to do so.

Nothing against Braun and Demers because they're fine NHL defenseman right now with plenty of room to grow their games, but Brodziak is one of the team's center pieces at this stage until they find out where their prospects will settle in and which of them they can build around. There's just not many valuable (to other teams) players on this roster that the Wild would want to move unless they're adding a significant piece to get another high end talent. Clutterbuck being really the only player that holds a little value to other teams and at a spot where the Wild could stand to move him to add an asset elsewhere.

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I like Braun's game better than Demers'. The Wild's blue line certainly isn't anything above average but I don't think Demers' presence would elevate it to the next tier; whether that's now or further down the line. Braun I have higher hopes for over the course of his career but he's likely not at that level right now either.

Moving Brodziak off this roster creates problems on several fronts. At this point in time he provides a very sound all-around game at the NHL level. He locks down a vital spot on the roster so that the talented kids coming through the pipeline have to work to reach coveted ice time, thus are given proper time to develop their games and not be thrust into a situation they're not ready for. If the Wild were going to move Brodziak, it would have been at the deadline last year and the Wild wouldn't have re-signed him before leading into it. And given what Gaustad fetched, his price tag wouldn't have been cheap either. In such a scenario, the Wild would have had free agency to attempt to fill that sort of void as well. Any trade at this point fails to do so.

Nothing against Braun and Demers because they're fine NHL defenseman right now with plenty of room to grow their games, but Brodziak is one of the team's center pieces at this stage until they find out where their prospects will settle in and which of them they can build around. There's just not many valuable (to other teams) players on this roster that the Wild would want to move unless they're adding a significant piece to get another high end talent. Clutterbuck being really the only player that holds a little value to other teams and at a spot where the Wild could stand to move him to add an asset elsewhere.

/long-windedness
I'm literally only posting to give you a hard time, and to be honest I enjoyed the insight from your post, but I take issue with your calling Brodziak a "centerpiece" with Koivu, Parise, Suter in your lineup. Mid-post I just reviewed your line-up, and ok, you're fine, carry-on :p

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I'm literally only posting to give you a hard time, and to be honest I enjoyed the insight from your post, but I take issue with your calling Brodziak a "centerpiece" with Koivu, Parise, Suter in your lineup. Mid-post I just reviewed your line-up, and ok, you're fine, carry-on :p
I see what you did there...

But anyway, ya, I guess I do see him as a centerpiece when you look at his game and how the franchise is constructed right now. He's got a lot going for him coming off of his year last season moving forward:

- Gritty, physical centerman.
- Play any kind of minutes you want; PK, 5-5, PP, up or down the line-up.
- Reliable at the dot.
- Work ethic that Yeo wants and the team continues to draft/covet.
- Solidifies line-up; prospects play top 6 or develop in Houston.

Of course players like Koivu, Parise, and Suter are the true centerpieces on this NHL squad. But if you're looking for a player who's likely next on the totem pole, Brodziak is probably that guy in my estimation. (Even if I do believe his numbers will surely take a dip this season)

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I like Braun's game better than Demers'. The Wild's blue line certainly isn't anything above average but I don't think Demers' presence would elevate it to the next tier; whether that's now or further down the line. Braun I have higher hopes for over the course of his career but he's likely not at that level right now either.

Moving Brodziak off this roster creates problems on several fronts. At this point in time he provides a very sound all-around game at the NHL level. He locks down a vital spot on the roster so that the talented kids coming through the pipeline have to work to reach coveted ice time, thus are given proper time to develop their games and not be thrust into a situation they're not ready for. If the Wild were going to move Brodziak, it would have been at the deadline last year and the Wild wouldn't have re-signed him before leading into it. And given what Gaustad fetched, his price tag wouldn't have been cheap either. In such a scenario, the Wild would have had free agency to attempt to fill that sort of void as well. Any trade at this point fails to do so.

Nothing against Braun and Demers because they're fine NHL defenseman right now with plenty of room to grow their games, but Brodziak is one of the team's center pieces at this stage until they find out where their prospects will settle in and which of them they can build around. There's just not many valuable (to other teams) players on this roster that the Wild would want to move unless they're adding a significant piece to get another high end talent. Clutterbuck being really the only player that holds a little value to other teams and at a spot where the Wild could stand to move him to add an asset elsewhere.

/long-windedness
I'll take Clutterbuck if you rather move him for Demers and a pick. Quite a few Sharks fans would be willing to pay that price (moving Demers that is...not someone I would think they'd actively shop but if the right player became available to strengthen the 3rd line, I could see one of the Sharks younger NHL d-men being open for discussion).

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I see what you did there...

But anyway, ya, I guess I do see him as a centerpiece when you look at his game and how the franchise is constructed right now. He's got a lot going for him coming off of his year last season moving forward:

- Gritty, physical centerman.
- Play any kind of minutes you want; PK, 5-5, PP, up or down the line-up.
- Reliable at the dot.
- Work ethic that Yeo wants and the team continues to draft/covet.
- Solidifies line-up; prospects play top 6 or develop in Houston.

Of course players like Koivu, Parise, and Suter are the true centerpieces on this NHL squad. But if you're looking for a player who's likely next on the totem pole, Brodziak is probably that guy in my estimation. (Even if I do believe his numbers will surely take a dip this season)
That is why i said Wingels and Braun, i think Wingels could fill his place.

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