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[EDM] Taylor Hall signs seven year extension, $6m per

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08-22-2012, 12:38 PM
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Not a bad deal for Hall, considering his injury history right out the gate. If indeed he's a career bandaid boy, then this deal gets a lot worse for the Oilers. But the same could be said about Skinner and a possible start to a concussion history.

Wondering what Eberle's going to get now, considering he's been a bit more reliable. Perhaps dual $6mil per deals?

John Tavares' contract looks better and better by the day.


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Not really, Carolina fans couldn't get through their heads that people were making fun of the timing of the Skinner contract rather than the contract itself.

This one is the same timing and you can say Hall's had injuries but not a concussion and he's a 1st pick plus it buys three rather than two yrs of UFA. It's not a bargain or anything but this one seems more fair and the timing is fine. And when I say it's not a bargain, I mean that he would have gotten $6 M if he had signed at the end of next year as well because I doubt he has a 90 pt season and demands more than that next yr if he was an RFA then.
No I'm pretty sure most of the people saying Skinner's contract was bad weren't making fun of the timing, they were legitimately saying it was a bad deal and Skinner didn't deserve more than a bridge contract and he would never be worth that contract "because he was already regressing".

Who cares that he's a 1st overall pick, he hasn't shown that he's any better than Skinner this point into his NHL career yet most people are calling this a great deal yet many of those same people called Skinner's deal horrible. What a joke.

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6 millions seem a lot to me, considering Hall hasn't really done that much. Oilers are paying for potential here, not too smart IMO.

But if the EDM fan base is happy, good for them I suppose.

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If you beleive this, and Oilers brass does too, get used to last place.
Smid - petry were paired when gilbert went down. they had a 2.22Ga/60 together versus 1st comp puts them top 10 of the league.

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Signing a legitimate stars/superstars, the point of the Oilers rebuild.

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Terrible deal.

Putting a lot of money into the hopes that Hall will shake the constant injuries and his career max is 53 points..
in 61 games? (in two seasons)


This is how I see it

Hall
4.5
5
5.5
6
6.5
7
7.5

Average 6M

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Terrible deal.

Putting a lot of money into the hopes that Hall will shake the constant injuries and his career max is 53 points..
lol
he's been in the league 2 years...

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Sorry anyone who tries to compare Dubnyk to Lundqvist, even in some micro set of pre-picked stats loses and and all credibility in my book.

This would be akin to me comparing Phaneuf in the first couple weeks of the season to Weber last year. It don't mean squat they aren't on the same level at all.

Lundqvist is the undisputed best goalie in the league right now, and Jon Quick is making his own case. Dubnyk is nowhere in the top 10, and would have trouble making a top 20 list.
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so when does hall leave for a greener pasture? i thought taylor already had his bags packed when he was drafted by edmonton back in june 2010?


haha love how all the haters were just waiting for our kids to bail.

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Not at all. Hall has been unlucky with a few of his injuries so far. He has the ability to be a 35g-45a guy going forward, and that is a little conservative IMO.

He is the heart and soul of the team. Something is missing when he's not in the line-up... that drive and determination and will to win. Eberle and RNH are amazing but Hall just has that extra intangible.
I think it is a fair deal, or at least one the Oilers should make 99/100, but I don't think you can safely decompose the 'unlucky' injuries and the way he plays.

He is a man among men who plays like a man among boys. He's going to keep putting himself in compromising position unless he gets smarter.

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Fair deal. Not a steal or overpayment, unless Hall continues to have injury issues.

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Good deal. I'd love Burke to get Kessel signed to an identical contract... he'll probably demand more money...

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6 millions seem a lot to me, considering Hall hasn't really done that much. Oilers are paying for potential here, not too smart IMO.

But if the EDM fan base is happy, good for them I suppose.


except score the 2nd most goals in 21 less games than the leader (Eberle)

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lol
he's been in the league 2 years...
And just got $6M. Round and around we go!!

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All we hear is "But the Oilers can't afford them lolz!" and "the big four will cost over 30m!! It's doomsday! Cap hell!".

Situation doesn't look quite so ******* dire now, does it?

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God forbid the Oilers lock up the face of their franchise, former first overall draft pick and fiercest competitor for long term because he missed some time due to a rolled ankle, a bum shoulder that dates back from his junior hockey days and a skate to the face he got in warmup.


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Good deal. I'd love Burke to get Kessel signed to an identical contract... he'll probably demand more money...
Kessel's would be 7 UFA years not 1 UFA year. It would be alot more.

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lol
he's been in the league 2 years...
And you really think he is worth 6m?
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except score the 2nd most goals in 21 less games than the leader (Eberle)
That's not saying much

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Interesting how the argument from the haters shifted from "They'll never afford them all!" to "but hall is injury-prone!". Keep it coming!

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people will find a way to ***** about every contract any player signs

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All we hear is "But the Oilers can't afford them lolz!" and "the big four will cost over 30m!! It's doomsday! Cap hell!".

Situation doesn't look quite so ******* dire now, does it?
It's not that as much as it's there's only so much icetime to go around. Tamby will have to make trades to balance out the team a bit.


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Terrible deal.

Putting a lot of money into the hopes that Hall will shake the constant injuries and his career max is 53 points..
I think its more than fair to both sides, given that he hasn't reached his ceiling and it could turn into an epic steal. I undersand the thinking that he has been injued a fair amount, but he has also been the cog that drives the team. It is a given that the teams is gong to spend near the cap and if you going to spend the money anyways, you have to give it to your home grown players like the first overall pick you sucked so hard to get. Hall has shown dominance at every level of play so far and its worth the risk of injuries to make sure you don't have a Weber thing come up for the team in a few years.

PS I would think that as a philly fan you would be silent because your team signed pronger to a post 35 deal of epic proportions and he is injury prone.

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Guess it's an alright deal. Slightly too much money imo.

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So, this is your "prove" that Dubnyk is the same caliber of goal as Henrik Lundqvist???

Holy ****, man...

You think Lundquist would have got those numbers with the oilers from Jan. on.

yeah, it is crazy to use real results as a basis for any discussion of player performance.

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This is a tough one here. I don't believe you always pay on potential, but in 3 years this could be a great deal. But realistically - he has a lot to continue to live up to.

I'm not saying he will or won't... but EDM showed they fully believe in Hall. Let's see where it goes. Only way to really judge it.

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