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08-22-2012, 02:38 PM
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If you account for inflation and the extra year, it's in line with the extension Tavares got a year ago as well.

If Chia wants to wait until the new CBA is in place before signing any of the upcoming RFAs I'm good with that but I hope he gets their extensions done before next summer.

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08-22-2012, 02:40 PM
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You pay for the hype. And Hall may very well live up to it. I just laugh when I hear the owners cry poor mouth and demand the players kowtow to them on the CBA because "WE CAN'T CONTROL OURSELVES!!!"

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Way too much. Hall hasn't proved anything to deserve that kind of coin. Yuck.

I'm hoping Chia can keep Seguin around $5.5m for around the same term but I might be dreaming.

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If he can stay healthy and reach his full potential he will be grossly underpaid relative to what elite talent is making in the last three years of that deal

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If the NHL gets a new "$55m" cap, then one would expect that they are also getting a salary roll back of the same %age; hence Hall's contract would be in the high $4m range.
to which then everyone would talk about it being a steal..when it's still around the same cap %.

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probably dreaming because unlike Hall, Seguin is proving what he can do

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Over paid him and screwed us.
Just .... this.

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probably dreaming because unlike Hall, Seguin is proving what he can do
I don't care to go copy and paste them in, but I think you should check Hall's numbers before saying something like that.

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Seguin has every right to demand more.

I'd be thrilled if he signed this exact same deal.

Offer it TODAY Chia.

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08-22-2012, 04:04 PM
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If the NHL gets a new "$55m" cap, then one would expect that they are also getting a salary roll back of the same %age; hence Hall's contract would be in the high $4m range.
Exactly.. So maybe Chia would be wise to sign Seguin now before the salary "roll back".. Didnt learn from history.. the Harry Sinden: "we will wait to sign players after new CBA, we'll sign guys for pennies on the dollar" mentality. Im exagerating ofcourse, Chia has earned this fans trust. How would a potential salray roll back affect Chia's strategy in regards to Seguin contract?

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It's basically 4M per year since he usually spends 25% of the season on LTIR

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I think this hurts Lucic a lot

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Exactly.. So maybe Chia would be wise to sign Seguin now before the salary "roll back".. Didnt learn from history.. the Harry Sinden: "we will wait to sign players after new CBA, we'll sign guys for pennies on the dollar" mentality. Im exagerating ofcourse, Chia has earned this fans trust. How would a potential salray roll back affect Chia's strategy in regards to Seguin contract?
The Bruins got burnt coming out of the last lockout; let's hope history doesn't repeat.

However if the owners get their 10 years before FA and some sort of cap on second contracts, then the Bruins could be in very good position re Seguins new deal.

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The Bruins got burnt coming out of the last lockout; let's hope history doesn't repeat.

Not totally comparable situations. B's basically had no one under contract the year coming out of the lock out last time assuming there would be a glut of UFA talent available for pennies on the dollar ... obviously it backfired. This time they have an entire roster under contract for the coming season.

I wouldn't be too worried about it at this point.

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Seguin has every right to demand more.

I'd be thrilled if he signed this exact same deal.

Offer it TODAY Chia.
I had Seguin between Tavares money and 6M per before this deal. I still do.

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Once again the Edmonton Oilers butcher the NHL's economy.
Jeff Skinner just got 6yrs@5.725

Hall for 7yrs@6 is no surprise for anyone paying attention.

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Jeff Skinner just got 6yrs@5.725

Hall for 7yrs@6 is no surprise for anyone paying attention.
so more like bad teams without cap issues butcher the NHL economy

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so more like bad teams without cap issues butcher the NHL economy
Inflation
Heard of it?

If anyone thinks Seguin is getting less than 5.75 they are kidding themselves.

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If Seguin gets this I'll be thrilled... Put an offer out today. This is good for Seguin's contract.

He deserves more, and probably will try to deserve even more during this season.

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High risk high reward...

Wonder if this contract will even be accepted under the new CBA

Count me under the group that thinks its too much for too long given his current body of work and injury history

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Not totally comparable situations. B's basically had no one under contract the year coming out of the lock out last time assuming there would be a glut of UFA talent available for pennies on the dollar ... obviously it backfired. This time they have an entire roster under contract for the coming season.

I wouldn't be too worried about it at this point.
I am not concerned with the 2012-13 season if there is indeed one.

However if the new CBA has a limit of 5 years on all contracts, then not being proactive now with some of the key contracts (Lucic, Seguin, Rask, Marchand, Horton) expiring in 2013 could make negotiations in 2013 very difficult.

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Jeff Skinner just got 6yrs@5.725

Hall for 7yrs@6 is no surprise for anyone paying attention.
Jeff Skinner won the Calder Trophy.

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Market set for Seguin? I'd give him this deal.
There's no way the B's give Seguin anything close to this any time soon. Does anyone really think it's a coincidence that they have'nt resigned any of their upcoming FA's to long term deals? JJ is pushing a hard line and there is no way the team signs anybody before the new cba is in place. That's why Rask only got a one year deal. He's banking on a rollback and beating the players up big time, so the team is doing exactly what they did last lockout and it didn't work then. Hard to have faith that it will work this time as well.

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Jeff Skinner won the Calder Trophy.
And Hall was the first overall pick... And Hall was better last season..
And Hall signed another year into UFA years

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Seguin has every right to demand more.

I'd be thrilled if he signed this exact same deal.

Offer it TODAY Chia.
A few points here have lead the NHL in the direction it's in.

Seguin can demand all he wants, that won't change the fact that he's third year player whos rights are controlled by the team.

Just because one GM was foolish doesn't mean everyone else now has to be. The situation in Edmonton is completly differnt than that in Boston.

Why should PC repeat Edmontons mistake?

The second contract is dead. Sadly, Burke was right.

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