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Taking a look back at 25 years worth of Habs prospect top 10 lists

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08-19-2012, 04:14 PM
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Just bumping for those who may be interested, but missed the thread.



Just look at how much changes in a 5 or 6 year period.

Our "future" was Komisarek, Higgins, Perezhogin, Hainsey etc..

Now, that "future" is well behind us.
Agreed. That 2003-04 group looked so promising. I remember that Higgins was supposed to be our version of Brendan Morrow. Too bad none of them but Plekanec worked out.

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2008:

1.Carey Price
2.Ryan McDonagh f u Gainey!
3.Max Pacioretty
4.PK Subban
5.David Fischer
6.Alexei Yemelin
7.Yannick Weber
8.Ben Maxwell
9.Ryan White
10.Mikhail Grabosvki f u Gainey, again!

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08-21-2012, 10:52 AM
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Nice post, I used to read the same scouting reports back in the day, thinking 'wow... when are these guys going to make it'?

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08-21-2012, 12:13 PM
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Proof that things never go as planned. ''Hey guys, what could our lineup look like in 5 years with Galchenyuk, Collberg, Beaulieu, etc?'' It will look like nothing you think it could look like.

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1.Carey Price
2.Ryan McDonagh f u Gainey!
3.Max Pacioretty
4.PK Subban
5.David Fischer
6.Alexei Yemelin
7.Yannick Weber
8.Ben Maxwell
9.Ryan White
10.Mikhail Grabosvki f u Gainey, again!
Looks like draft pedigree had a bit too much influence on that ranking.

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08-21-2012, 01:13 PM
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Wow, a lot of bust over the years. So many wasted opportunities, if only the habs management would have been half decent, we would not be in this present crappy situation.
Things are looking up for the future. I believe the Habs are now in the top 10 for organizational prospects, much better than in recent years. IMO, in a few years from now when most of our young talent will be up with the big club, we'll be contending for a good while.

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Proof that things never go as planned. ''Hey guys, what could our lineup look like in 5 years with Galchenyuk, Collberg, Beaulieu, etc?'' It will look like nothing you think it could look like.
Yeah, for all we know Galchenyuk could "take the Redden route" and Eryk Nystrom become a perennial 100pts scorer.

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08-21-2012, 02:18 PM
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I was wondering if they ever found the body of Brent Bilodeau. He's rated number one in
1993 and then...nothing...he just vanished.

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I was wondering if they ever found the body of Brent Bilodeau. He's rated number one in
1993 and then...nothing...he just vanished.


At one point he was actually considered a potential top 5 pick in '91 and was obviously a very promising prospect. In his rookie season in the Dub in 89-90 he made a pretty good impact with 43 points in 68 games (170 penalty minutes). Never built on that though, and had a pretty forgettable draft season, in which he fell to Montreal at 17th overall.

By all accounts he was a very big kid who was extremely slow and lacked the mobility to play in the NHL.

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Si I guess it means that between 4 and 7 players of Habs' actual top 10 should make the NHL with a certain impact.

Being optimistic, I'll settle for 6. Here are the 6 I think will have a certain impact in the NHL (regular players for more than 2 years) :

1. Nathan Beaulieu
2. Louis Leblanc
3. Jarred Tinordi
4. Brendan Gallagher

5. Aaron Palushaj
6. Michael Bournival
7. Andreas Engqvist
8. Alexander Avtsin
9. Danny Kristo
10. Patrick Holland

The rest could have a short or non-convincing NHL career, or be career AHLer.

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At one point he was actually considered a potential top 5 pick in '91 and was obviously a very promising prospect. In his rookie season in the Dub in 89-90 he made a pretty good impact with 43 points in 68 games (170 penalty minutes). Never built on that though, and had a pretty forgettable draft season, in which he fell to Montreal at 17th overall.

By all accounts he was a very big kid who was extremely slow and lacked the mobility to play in the NHL.
So there is a slight chance Tinordi could be the next Bilodeau. But he seems more mobile, so that's a plus. But Bilodeau was better offensively.

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Yeah, for all we know Galchenyuk could "take the Redden route" and Eryk Nystrom become a perennial 100pts scorer.
Of course it is exaggerate, but still, things like that could very well happen. People are always too pump up about prospects.

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So there is a slight chance Tinordi could be the next Bilodeau. But he seems more mobile, so that's a plus. But Bilodeau was better offensively.
Bilodeau couldn't skate well and had zero foot speed, I used to watch him play often as a friend of mine played hockey in Seattle with Brent. Tough as nails though, he could throw em when provoked.

Tinordi skates well for a big man, but it seems these 'big guys' are either boom or bust. I think , if anything, the worst case scenario is a Kyle McLaren type of player.

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08-23-2012, 10:28 AM
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Bilodeau couldn't skate well and had zero foot speed, I used to watch him play often as a friend of mine played hockey in Seattle with Brent. Tough as nails though, he could throw em when provoked.

Tinordi skates well for a big man, but it seems these 'big guys' are either boom or bust. I think , if anything, the worst case scenario is a Kyle McLaren type of player.
We see it the same way. I like the McLaren worst-case-scenario-projection.

Where it seems harder for many of us, is projecting the best case scenario. I can't find a comparison that suits what I think of him in my more optimistic projection.

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Si I guess it means that between 4 and 7 players of Habs' actual top 10 should make the NHL with a certain impact.

Being optimistic, I'll settle for 6. Here are the 6 I think will have a certain impact in the NHL (regular players for more than 2 years) :

1. Nathan Beaulieu
2. Louis Leblanc
3. Jarred Tinordi
4. Brendan Gallagher

5. Aaron Palushaj
6. Michael Bournival
7. Andreas Engqvist
8. Alexander Avtsin
9. Danny Kristo
10. Patrick Holland

The rest could have a short or non-convincing NHL career, or be career AHLer.
Swap holland for Bournival and I agree. Don't think Holland ever makes it out of the AHL.

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If Nattinen can keep on improving from last year performance, we may have a late bloomer in Hamilton as well...

http://www.lapresse.ca/sports/hockey...a-hamilton.php

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This list makes me realize how good of a job Timmins has done with the club. The 1990s were arguably the worst years for Habs drafting. There were few players of note that helped the Habs; the only ones were Koivu, Theodore, and Markov.

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The 1990s were arguably the worst years for Habs drafting
1998 was an excellent year.

Of course hindsight worths nothing, but just switch Chouinard for Gagné and it would have been THE draft!

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2008:

1.Carey Price
2.Ryan McDonagh f u Gainey!
3.Max Pacioretty
4.PK Subban
5.David Fischer
6.Alexei Yemelin
7.Yannick Weber
8.Ben Maxwell
9.Ryan White
10.Mikhail Grabosvki f u Gainey, again!


Why such a hard on for these two first off Gainey had nothing to do with Ryan McDonaugh going to the Rangers maybe u should say f u Gauthier instead and secondly no offense if he is your favourite player Mikhail Grabosvki was a head case in Montreal and is probably still one (by the first few years in Toronto) in Toronto!

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At one point he was actually considered a potential top 5 pick in '91 and was obviously a very promising prospect. In his rookie season in the Dub in 89-90 he made a pretty good impact with 43 points in 68 games (170 penalty minutes). Never built on that though, and had a pretty forgettable draft season, in which he fell to Montreal at 17th overall.

By all accounts he was a very big kid who was extremely slow and lacked the mobility to play in the NHL.
Yeah, I heard that too. The Habs didn't have much luck when they drafted from the Dub in those years. They seemed more concerned with size than talent.

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Care to elaborate? arguments are overrated...
Lolz is an elabration for me fisher as a 1st is bad even for an ahl team.. Sorry Davey even Timmins can screwup sometimes still no1 fan oh him even if would pan out after 7 years lol it would be easy to get him even if he would become nhl talent all of a sudden never he will reach a 1st value unless he was given spiderman adn all of a sudden

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Interesting post, thanks

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Why such a hard on for these two first off Gainey had nothing to do with Ryan McDonaugh going to the Rangers maybe u should say f u Gauthier instead and secondly no offense if he is your favourite player Mikhail Grabosvki was a head case in Montreal and is probably still one (by the first few years in Toronto) in Toronto!
Gainey was general manager.

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Swap holland for Bournival and I agree. Don't think Holland ever makes it out of the AHL.
Funny, when I did the list, I hesitate so much between those 2... My fear is Holland being another Maxwell... But he could also become a kinda Cassels...

For Bournival, I dunno, really... He doesn't inspire me any worst-case or best-case scenario.

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