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08-23-2012, 09:31 AM
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How do we get the attention of Detroit fans? They seem to ignore this thread, but they probably know we are calling for them. Can someone put an octapus in the title or something?

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Franzen for Zajac + Volchenkov or something along these lines?

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08-23-2012, 09:49 AM
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Franzen for Zajac + Volchenkov or something along these lines?
no way

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Why do they need a bargain contract? -we have plenty of cap space -And I am not opposed to getting gionta back, whom is not on a bargain contract
Because although they went to the SCF last season and added that additional revenue, the team still lost money. It's the reason why their star player wasn't resigned. Vanderbeek has two years to restructure his debt to make his creditors happy. Running a team in the negative isn't going to help balance his organizations finances, nor help him keep his costs low enough to allow him to retain is upcoming UFAs. Adding expensive veteran contracts on two year deals, like Gionta, works completely contrary to what he needs to do.

By letting Parise walk, their two year fiscal window, their star goalie nearing retirement and the number of impending UFAs, IMO we could see a rebuild in NJ, not adding expensive vets.

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Franzen for Zajac + Volchenkov or something along these lines?
I'd think more along the lines of Tallinder + mid pick for MPS.


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I think Calgary would make sense. They have plenty of 2nd line wingers. Perhaps if they ever do trade Jaybo then a deal would make sense, something around sending a top 4 defensemane for a second line winger

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no way
Care to elaborate why I'm so far off? I don't really know these two players, so Detroit could add Tatar/Kindl and / or picks.

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08-23-2012, 10:17 AM
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Franzen for Zajac + Volchenkov or something along these lines?
No thank you very much.

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08-23-2012, 10:25 AM
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Franzen for Zajac + Volchenkov or something along these lines?
Terrible value. Franzen and Zajac are not far apart. Zajac is much more valuable to the devils than Franzen so thats a nonstarter. Franzen hasnt even hit 60 points and you want that package?

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Because although they went to the SCF last season and added that additional revenue, the team still lost money. It's the reason why their star player wasn't resigned. Vanderbeek has two years to restructure his debt to make his creditors happy. Running a team in the negative isn't going to help balance his organizations finances, nor help him keep his costs low enough to allow him to retain is upcoming UFAs. Adding expensive veteran contracts on two year deals, like Gionta, works completely contrary to what he needs to do.

By letting Parise walk, their two year fiscal window, their star goalie nearing retirement and the number of impending UFAs, IMO we could see a rebuild in NJ, not adding expensive vets.


I'd think more along the lines of Tallinder + mid pick for MPS.
Where did you get that information? I cant say whether they made a profit or not, but I can make an educated guess and say that they probably did.

http://www.forbes.com/nhl-valuations/#p_2_s_a0_

Last year they generated 100mil in revenue and had an operating loss of 6 mil. Considering the playoff they had and the better regular season, I think it is safer to say they made a profit than not(I dont know how the debt payments play into that).

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we lost money? based on what?

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Terrible value. Franzen and Zajac are not far apart. Zajac is much more valuable to the devils than Franzen so thats a nonstarter. Franzen hasnt even hit 60 points and you want that package?
So a counter offer of Franzen for Volchenkov + a A-Prospect?

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So a counter offer of Franzen for Volchenkov + a A-Prospect?
According to Lou, the devils have 8 "A prospects"
I think one can be made available

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it all depends on which prospect you want.

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it all depends on which prospect you want.
Merrill would be nice.

But it would be too soon for us to trade Franzen. Some of the kids neet to step up and prove they are worth a spot in the top6 and can score goals before we can move Franzen.

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So a counter offer of Franzen for Volchenkov + a A-Prospect?
Volchenkov likely won't waive his NTC. Tallinder is much more likely, and, IMO, would fit the Wings' system better.

What prospects were you considering? And we'd probably have to add picks.

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Merrill would be nice.

But it would be too soon for us to trade Franzen. Some of the kids neet to step up and prove they are worth a spot in the top6 and can score goals before we can move Franzen.
to trade Merrill I'd rather go after someone younger than Franzen

especially if its Merrill + Volch

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to trade Merrill I'd rather go after someone younger than Franzen

especially if its Merrill + Volch
Yeah, I don't think we could work anything out with Franzen. We have Fil but he has only one year left. Though I think he could fit very nicely in NJ.

And I'm pretty sure that management isn't willing to trade the younger kids we have.

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Franzen's contract is scary anyway. Dont think Devils want to get in with that.
Filpulla seems solid, but would is his price tag?

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Franzen's contract is scary anyway. Dont think Devils want to get in with that.
Filpulla seems solid, but would is his price tag?
From NJ? Tough to say because some players we would want we would get with much less than Fil (Volch, Tallinder, maybe Greene) or are untouchable (Larsson). Maybe Merrill but again, he can't contribute next year when we need help.

If Fil is traded it it's (in a package) for a top-pairing Dman, I think.

Rumors say Fil has been the centerpiece for trade proposals to Yandle and Bouwmeester, and maybe Weber. So either Wings management doesn't think he's very valuable or he's asking too much money.

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From NJ? Tough to say because some players we would want we would get with much less than Fil (Volch, Tallinder, maybe Greene) or are untouchable (Larsson). Maybe Merrill but again, he can't contribute next year when we need help.

If Fil is traded it it's (in a package) for a top-pairing Dman, I think.

Rumors say Fil has been the centerpiece for trade proposals to Yandle and Bouwmeester, and maybe Weber. So either Wings management doesn't think he's very valuable or he's asking too much money.
Weber cant be traded for the next year so that is off the table.

I wonder what Yandle or Bouwmeester is worth. I like Yandle alot. Im sure the devils wont get either tho

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Weber cant be traded for the next year so that is off the table.
Before the offer sheet, Nashville considered trading him.

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Getting off topic.

Who is your top 6 winger going to the devils?

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bingo.
It's like the Habs fans in the other thread telling us that Collberg would be our best prospect when we passed on him to draft a different player. Clearly our scouts valued Matteau more.

But Larsson is different, he just simply isn't available.

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Because although they went to the SCF last season and added that additional revenue, the team still lost money. It's the reason why their star player wasn't resigned. Vanderbeek has two years to restructure his debt to make his creditors happy. Running a team in the negative isn't going to help balance his organizations finances, nor help him keep his costs low enough to allow him to retain is upcoming UFAs. Adding expensive veteran contracts on two year deals, like Gionta, works completely contrary to what he needs to do.

By letting Parise walk, their two year fiscal window, their star goalie nearing retirement and the number of impending UFAs, IMO we could see a rebuild in NJ, not adding expensive vets.
Thats not why he wasn't resigned at all? Are you having fun posting inaccurate reasons for why parise didn't resign here?

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Ouch...for a 32 year old whos only hit 30 goals once? You're way off...

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Would any Hawks fans like to chime in on Stalberg?

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Take Omark for a 3rd round pick.

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